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Nard Cox 05.01.2010 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Moller123456 ! (Post 362501)
My conversion is at the post office:D

That's fast :lol:
Well atleast you got it now.

Moller123456 ! 05.01.2010 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Nard Cox (Post 362533)
That's fast :lol:
Well atleast you got it now.

Yeah, but i have to pay F***ing 70$ in tax:@ F***ing denmark:@:@

Nard Cox 05.01.2010 11:18 AM

Same here bro. It's not fair that everything is just 50% of the price we have to pay over here...

Moller123456 ! 05.01.2010 11:19 AM

no and the people who get it so cheap complains about the price....
Lucky americans:(

95ROLR 05.01.2010 08:25 PM

Got the conversion complete as well as some new wheels/tires. I wanted black wheels but everything was out of stock so I decided to get some JConcepts Rulux and mount Pro-Line Badlands on them.

I was going to dye the wheels but I was having a heck of a time finding the RIT dye. According to the 2 Wal-Mart's I went to, they discontinued carrying the dye. I ended up going to a Fabricland and they had none either, but they had a "comparable" product... Unfortunately the nylon wheel wouldn't accept the colour. As soon as you picked up the wheel, the liquid/dye would just bead off. I gave up and said it was good enough how it is (for now).

I can't wait for things to dry up here (rain/snow the last week) and get some wheel time on this thing!

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2120/tentf.jpg

E-Revonut 05.01.2010 09:00 PM

I had a hard time finding the dye at Walmart myself. I figured it would be in their arts and crafts area, but they pretty much did away with all that stuff. I did finally find the dye in the laundry detergent isle, but I walked past it about 3 times before I seen it.

95ROLR 05.02.2010 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by E-Revonut (Post 362612)
I had a hard time finding the dye at Walmart myself. I figured it would be in their arts and crafts area, but they pretty much did away with all that stuff. I did finally find the dye in the laundry detergent isle, but I walked past it about 3 times before I seen it.

Yeah, I used to pick it up in the detergent isle, but the first store was sold out and the second store had no rack up and said WalMart has discontinued carrying it...

Oh well.

Chadworkz 05.02.2010 08:50 PM

What size center-diff does the Ten-T use...is it standard 1/8 scale?

bryan 05.02.2010 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chadworkz (Post 362713)
What size center-diff does the Ten-T use...is it standard 1/8 scale?

Doesent matter!! Fill it up with 500k, and have fun!!!!!:lol:

Chadworkz 05.02.2010 10:42 PM

Don't want a CD, want to replace it with an Ofna solid-drive.

BrianG 05.02.2010 11:20 PM

The only Ofna solid-drive I know of is the one that comes in the Ultra GTP. It's uses a 51T mod 1.0 setup, so the diameter is far too big (53mm) compared to Mike's 52T 32p spur (42.86mm). The cheapest way to make a sold drive would be to use JBWeld or some very thick substance in the diff to lock it. Of course, it weighs more than a simpler solid setup.

Chadworkz 05.02.2010 11:54 PM

I have quite a few Ofna solid-drive units as well as a few Ofna Monster Pirate solid-drive slipper-clutches and tons of gears modified to fit them, from 48P, 32P (0.8m) to Mod1, in plastic, Delrin, and steel. I should be able to make something work!

BrianG 05.03.2010 12:05 AM

Still, it would be nice is there was an off-the-shelf option. Using some custom-made parts is nice, but some (like driveline components) can be a PITA to replace/remake.

bparanoid 05.03.2010 08:59 AM

How is the 500K oil in the centre Diff working out for those who have made the change? What can I expect? Did it change the handling characteristics a whole lot, braking? Does it send the truck on its spoiler too easily? My front tires turn into pizza cutters immediately with any hard acceleration and would like some insight before I make the change. Brian, hows the 120K oil making out?

BrianG 05.03.2010 09:49 AM

As a basher and "bashing racer" (playing around at the track, but not racing) I generally love thicker oil to reduce or eliminate ballooning and get more power to the ground. 120k does still unload the front, but not nearly as bad as whatever the vehicle came with. I find launches to be quicker, and have not noticed any difference in handling. Then again, my method of cornering is more like powersliding/drifting.

Arct1k 05.03.2010 09:59 AM

Just use a cen or losi diff locker...

http://www.losi.com/Products/Feature...rodId=LOSA3609

http://www.losi.com/ProdInfo/LOS/250/LOSA3609-250.jpg


Or

http://cgi.ebay.com/CEN-GEN-GST-Lock...#ht_2438wt_939

http://www.danjeppson.com/cendiffloc2.jpg

Chadworkz 05.03.2010 09:20 PM

So does that mean the diff itself is standard 1/8 scale, since those are standard 1/8 scale diff-lockers?

Moller123456 ! 05.04.2010 07:28 AM

got the kit... it has kost me 230$ and you just get some screws, and I dont have a clue where to put them, and some places misses screws and junk... i wasted my money..
Mike stop editing my posts!!!! i might be stupid, but i still feel like i wasted my money... and i dont need help...

I own this site - I will edit as i see fit. :) Monster Mike

hootie7159 05.04.2010 10:53 AM

Save the screws you pulled off the ten-t when you removed the nitro components....the 2biggest screws go into the rcm center diff mount...the 2 skinny long ones go into the top plate of the center diff....and the rest go into securing the battery tray...and the center diff spacer....I know it doesn't come with intructions but the putting the kit together is pretty easy....if your unsure just place the screws that came in the kit into the bottom of the tray and motor mount/top plate before you attach it toyour truck jut to see which screws go where...but don't force any screws in....BC you might strip the holes....oh yeah, and the screws that's in the small black plastic cylindrical shaped piece goes into the motor and it makes adjust gear mesh easier so that now all you have to do is loosen one screw to adj gear mesh....hope this helps....and no, you did not waste your money...mike make top notch stuff...and if something is wrong he will be new than happy to fix it for ya ;)

Moller123456 ! 05.04.2010 11:00 AM

hootie thanks:D i have mounted it, and i have had other stuff from mike... that was great... i was /am disappointed with this product.. :(

BrianG 05.04.2010 11:08 AM

Well, provide pics of any parts you are having trouble mounting and we'll tell you where it goes. I imagine it's very close to the kit I got (maybe even some improvements), and it looks and works well.

bparanoid 05.04.2010 11:27 AM

Wow! I am reading your post but I don't understand why you are so upset?

-it has kost me 230$ ... I am sure it cost you that much due to shipping, taxes, duty etc...

-and you just get some screws... did you not receive the battery tray, strap, diff mount, spur and pinion gear? If not you might have to talk to your mail man as these are all included in the kit (shrink wrapped btw)

-and I dont have a clue where to put them... I am sure many here are willing to assist.

-and some places misses screws and junk... this was an issue that only some of us were having and it was mentioned a few pages back and if I recall Mike was addressing it. No junk was included with my kit.

-i wasted my money... sounds like buyers remorse, sorry, cant help you with that.

Moller123456 ! 05.04.2010 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bparanoid (Post 362940)
Wow! I am reading your post but I don't understand why you are so upset?

-it has kost me 230$ ... I am sure it cost you that much due to shipping, taxes, duty etc...

-and you just get some screws... did you not receive the battery tray, strap, diff mount, spur and pinion gear? If not you might have to talk to your mail man as these are all included in the kit (shrink wrapped btw)

-and I dont have a clue where to put them... I am sure many here are willing to assist.

-and some places misses screws and junk... this was an issue that only some of us were having and it was mentioned a few pages back and if I recall Mike was addressing it. No junk was included with my kit.

-i wasted my money... sounds like buyers remorse, sorry, cant help you with that.


i did get the things, but when i say "just got some screws" i mean you just get the things and have to guess where hey need to be mounted.
But as i said: I have mounted it now and still feels like i wasted some money but F*** it:)

ta_man 05.04.2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Moller123456 ! (Post 362944)
i did get the things, but when i say "just got some screws" i mean you just get the things and have to guess where hey need to be mounted.
But as i said: I have mounted it now and still feels like i wasted some money but F*** it:)

You were the guy who absolutely couldn't wait to get it.

Maybe you should have waited and found out more about it before you decided to buy it so you would know what to expect out of it, and how much it was going to cost with the duties/taxes.

You have no excuse to be disappointed except your own impatience.

Moller123456 ! 05.04.2010 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ta_man (Post 362951)
You were the guy who absolutely couldn't wait to get it.

Maybe you should have waited and found out more about it before you decided to buy it so you would know what to expect out of it, and how much it was going to cost with the duties/taxes.

You have no excuse to be disappointed except your own impatience.

No couldnt wait, and i knew i had to pay taxes...
but im disappointed and all of you might be very happy... im not, and thats how i feel.. i did expect that it was good since it took about 2 months to make!

nitrostarter 05.04.2010 12:51 PM

I don't understand. You were happy with all of Mike's other products. I'm quite sure this kit is nothing from the ordinary from Mike, just a little updated.

RC-Monster Mike 05.04.2010 12:57 PM

You certainly have the right to be disappointed, yet It seems the main complaint is the lack of instructions? It seems you got it together pretty quickly based on your posts in this thread, though. Is there something in particular that has let you down? Are the pictures and product description innaccurate or something else that I can address(aside from the customs fees, which basically doubled the cost of the kit to you)? What improvements would you like to see? Expressing your feelings of discontent is all good and fine, but how about something specific regarding the kit? What "wasn't good" about it specifically?

Moller123456 ! 05.04.2010 01:40 PM

Im having a hard time to write what i mean.. easy in danish, but hard in english:(
The main complaints are the screws that "screwed" me up XD and i had expected abit more for the price (without tax)... but nevermind. i have the kit, and its mounted, so f... it.
and when i wrote my first post today i had been trying for about ½-1 hour.


And about the post editing, i dont see why i wasnt allowed to write that i wasted my money??!!

ta_man 05.04.2010 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moller123456 ! (Post 362977)
Im having a hard time to write what i mean.. easy in danish, but hard in english:(
The main complaints are the screws that "screwed" me up XD and i had expected abit more for the price (without tax)... but nevermind. i have the kit, and its mounted, so f... it.
and when i wrote my first post today i had been trying for about ½-1 hour.


And about the post editing, i dont see why i wasnt allowed to write that i wasted my money??!!

Seems to me that is completely a result of your impatience and not Mike's fault. If you waited to see what was in the kit before buying it there would have been no unmet expectations: you would have known exactly what you were getting before spending money. Then you could have decided whether it was worth it.

If money was wasted, it was wasted on instant gratification, rather than Mike's kit. Put the blame where it belongs.

RC-Monster Mike 05.04.2010 02:31 PM

You expressed that you "wasted your money" several times already - just nothing specific. Perhaps you will write it a few more times? The screws "screwed you up" is pretty vague and hard to imagine that it would cause such a reaction. The parts I made require metric screws, which were included. "More for the price" is vague as well - the kit includes everything needed to convert the vehicle - what more would I include? The price is based on the work to make the kit - I don't mass-produce the items in China by the thousand - I actually make them myself in small batches where I have control over the quality, material and also have the ability to update between batches. Without something specific I must assume you don't have much specific to write about, aside from the cost of the kit? The price was established before you made the purchase. Well, thanks for buying the kit and hopefully you can drive it some and get some value out of it - perhaps you will fell less like you "wasted money" after relieving some stress with a good old fashioned rc car driving session. If you think of anything specific I can do to improve the kit, please feel free to express these thoughts. :)

bryan 05.04.2010 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Moller123456 ! (Post 362558)
no and the people who get it so cheap complains about the price....
Lucky americans:(

Who's complaing now? :whistle: I was/am still impressed with Mikes conversion kit.

mohanjude 05.04.2010 04:06 PM

I purchased 2 kits from Mike in my initial order. I live in the UK and have to pay for International shipping too. I liked the Ten-T conversion so much that I went to order more conversion kits but found only 1 in stock to my disappointment. I did order it anyway.

The kit is not junk - it includes everything to get the conversion going - yes there a couple of screws that I needed to complete were missing but it was no big deal. The battery strap was a bit short - again a double sided velcro strap sorted that out. BrianG photos were easy enough to use as a reference to put the conversion together. I think the kit is simple enough to work out where the screws need to be fitted. After all this is the fun part of the conversion in my opinion.

I think the kit is well designed - today I wanted to lock the centre diff and had to only unscrew 4 screws to take the who assembly out. Did not have to move the motor or mess with the gear mesh. So I think Mike has designed the kit well when it comes to maintenance and repair.

I agree that at first glance the kit appears 'expensive'. However there is nobody else out there who takes the time to design these motor mounts and kits including custom Delrin spur gears.

I asked another chap sometime ago to make me a custom FG motor mount for me and he wanted a minimum order of 20 mounts. I could not afford to pay for 20 mounts. That would have been thousands of dollars. I cannot machine these parts myself so I am sure glad somebody out there like Mike is willing to do it for a reasonable price. So I think considering this - it is only fair that Mike tries to make a living by selling this custom mounts and kits.

I am certainly waiting for the Baja conversion and will be happy to pay the asking price.

Mohan

Moller123456 ! 05.04.2010 04:23 PM

i have to say sorry, i have had a bad day, and im ill.. when those things come together i can get pissed off by anything. the pr*** is ok without coustoms tax, but thats not your problem.
i dont wanna reply to all the posts, but thanks to the people who have tried to help.

Nard Cox 05.05.2010 03:58 AM

Man, sometimes I'd wish that I'd live in the US. Shipping and taxes can be a real pita and I can understand that it might set / piss you (Moller) off, though of course Mike isn't to blame for that. Also the rising dollar isn't helping making stuff cheaper anymore.

As for Mike, an improvement might be an additional picture of what people can expect to receive when buying the kit, so not mounted.

Yesterday I saw an ARTR (except RX and TX) TenT on eBay for just $167.50, unfortunately shipping was $100 (WTF?!) otherwise I would have bought it and would probably ordered Mike's kit...

ps. Mike you don't cheat on customs value for your products right?

Nard Cox 05.05.2010 12:16 PM

My edit doesn't work so a double post : For some reason the seller relisted the item for $225 buy now.

suicideneil 05.05.2010 06:01 PM

If it helps, use Bing translator:

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/Default.aspx

Actually works quite well :)

Moller123456 ! 05.10.2010 01:08 PM

FINALLY my ten-t is running:D or was... took me 1 ½ hour to almost total it XD Battery/esc mounting thing flew out and ripped the esc to reciver wire in half:( So not sure if thats dead... but it drives really well, the suspention is to soft tho... doesnt help that i have 2x 4s 4000mah batteries in it... (have to, to get the 150 amps) that the xerun kind of needs... i hope i can get it running again... ;) Byw. i have running video (not of the crash) should i post it on youtube? or has everbody here got the ten-te ?

BrianG 05.10.2010 01:18 PM

Sorry to hear about the battery/ESC mount coming out. That surprises me as mine has been through some pretty horrific crashes and it stayed put. Did you use all the screw mount points?

BTW: Just because the ESC is capable of delivering 150A doesn't mean you need to have batteries that can do that. The current draw is a function of vehicle, gearing, etc. If geared for the typical ~40mph, one pack is more than enough. I can easily run 40 minutes on a 4s 5000mAh Turnigy pack, which equates to a measly 7.5A average draw, with bursts around 50-60A. That is the equivalent of 1.5C continuous and 12C burst.

Moller123456 ! 05.10.2010 01:24 PM

Well it was a huge crash:D a 10-15 meters high steep hill, and gave it a boot full:D
I found out that some of the screws were to small, so took it all apart now, and searching for better ones... there was only one holding the mounting thing, that was still holding on the gold screwy thingy (sorry, have no idea what ist called) so it took me about 1.2 hours to make it better :P

I know it doesnt need 150amps but my flightmax 5000mah 20C was hot after abit of time, and i dont wanna take chances with lipo;)

bparanoid 05.10.2010 02:40 PM

Hey Moller, I would love to see the video. I haven't had a chance to video mine yet.


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