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thzero 10.10.2010 05:58 PM

People have mounted the bodies in a couple of different ways. Here are some pics on how I mounted it. You can also look through my gallery http://picasaweb.google.com/thzerodo...x5BConversion#.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TB...0/IMG_4954.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TB...0/IMG_4960.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TB...0/IMG_4964.JPG

Jahay 10.10.2010 06:00 PM

great thinking!! nice simple idea!

the body doesnt get hit in roll overs anyway right?

thzero 10.10.2010 06:06 PM

Not really no... because its small it mostly gets protected.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 383366)
great thinking!! nice simple idea!

the body doesnt get hit in roll overs anyway right?


mac3194 10.10.2010 06:40 PM

whats the long part were the body pin goes?? is that a baja 5b part??

Chadworkz 10.10.2010 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mac3194 (Post 383368)
whats the long part were the body pin goes?? is that a baja 5b part??

The body mounts right there...look on top of the rear/side of the body, you will see it poking through!

mac3194 10.10.2010 08:56 PM

i kno lol but whats the part #

thzero 10.10.2010 09:50 PM

#idontknobutanyoldbodypostwilldueyoujustgottafindo neandcutittofitityourself

Finnster 10.10.2010 11:57 PM

:)

Still the best Savage5's I've seen.

I think Tamiya or Trinity or Dynamite makes body posts like that. Search Tower.

thzero 10.11.2010 08:17 AM

Thanks. And yes, I don't know what they were, but you can find any number of different sized body posts to cut down and use. Tower can be a great place to hunt for them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finnster (Post 383389)
:)

Still the best Savage5's I've seen.

I think Tamiya or Trinity or Dynamite makes body posts like that. Search Tower.


mac3194 10.11.2010 04:54 PM

ok ill try looking for some

thzero 10.11.2010 05:31 PM

I had my 5T out the other day and tooling around on 5S on the 2200kv motor, I felt it was still exhibiting too much weight transfer on the white springs. I've switched to running the yellow springs to see if that resolved some of the weight transfer and body roll issues (note I'm also running the black swaybars). I have a feeling that the 50 and 55 weight shock oil that I've been running is a bit too much, may drop down to 40 or 45 weight.

thzero 10.12.2010 09:59 AM

Yes!

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Originally Posted by Bmr4life (Post 377050)
Are those the HPI 86249 wide axles?


thzero 10.12.2010 10:07 AM

A few updates the monster buggy... my attempts at steering mods!

Basically this was broken down into three phases. First was using the FLM drag link and making mods to the streeting linkage arm to allow for as much movement as possible:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TL...0/IMG_5048.JPG

Second was to modify the hubs and hub carries to remove any places that they were binding or were causing them to stop too soon.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TL...0/IMG_5053.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TL...0/IMG_5054.JPG

This got me a lot more throw than expected and the tie rods were binding on the suspension arm's rear shock mount tabs. Since I am using Flux shocks, I had no need for the tabs and was able to remove them.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TL...0/IMG_5061.JPG

There are a few more pictures in the gallery.

I should note that even with the mods, the servo is still well under its full movement so there shouldn't be an issues with the servo. I'm also using the heavy duty servo saver spring.

And yes, my monster buggy is a bit dirty... :)

thzero 11.22.2010 06:16 PM

Well after having broken a number of the Savage XL axles at the start of the threads (See below) I got some "custom axles" made to use the standard Baja 5B 24mm hubs. The 5B hubs are 12mm, instead of the 8mm for the Savage X/XL axles, and they use a 4mm pin.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TE...Damage.png.jpg

So essentially I got a new pin hole bored in the axle, and a spacer made (8mm ID and 12mm OD).

Here are the seperate parts..

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TO...0/IMG_5101.JPG

Partially put together
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TO...0/IMG_5099.JPG

Complete assembly and comparison shot.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TO...0/IMG_5105.JPG

This has lost me about 6mm on the XL width (3mm on each side). Not too bad of tradeoff for what seem like a bit sturdier solution.

thzero 12.09.2010 02:38 PM

Next phase is implementing a center diff. Doing this for a couple of reasons; a) to mount the 1520 motor, b) better turning, c) remove the tranny, d) because I want to! Granted I can grind out the chassis to allow the 1520 motor to fit, but really with the TVPs its a PITA to work on.

Replacing the Savage tranny with a center diff means you lose the gear reduction of the tranny. So now you need to run large spurs (50, 52, 54) with small pinions (8, 9, 10, 11).

I have all the spurs, as I was planning to use a RC8T center diff [because I have an RC8T], but smallest mod 1 pinions I've found is a 9. But really these are getting small and bit worried about them holding up frankly.

So my next option was to explore using different front/rear diffs. Someone once mentioned to me that the Lightning Stadium Pro diffs should fit. So I went and look up part numbers, but also ended up checking out some other HP and Hot Body vehicles. And dang the HP Vorza and HB Lightning Pro diff internals looked much the same, both being spiral cut too, and you could use center dogbones to boot. So I ordered some, and low and behold the 43 tooth ring gear fits on a Savage diff using the Flux/XL diff cups. And it fits into the bulkhead needing only minor shimming. The 10t spiral cut bevel gear fit, but has a bit of play (About an 1/8th of an inch or so) that needs to get taken care of. But nothing insurmountable at all. The 43t ring is much thicker than even the bulletproof diff, so with a good shim I don't see any issues using these in the Savage under 6S. Especially considering they are used in the Vorza and I run spiral cut diffs in my RC8T and haven't had issues.

So now with using the 4.3:1 ratio front/rear diffs I can run one of the smaller center diff spurs (50) and play with 12-15 tooth pinions.

I'll post some pics tonight with everything mocked up.


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