This was on a stock chassis E-Maxx with PowerStroke shocks and a bunch of other mods, but dimension wise it was a stock chassis.

I understand your frustration.. Shoot castle an email, i think they will be kind enough to help you out..

2 out of 5 controllers down.. That's one unstable as heck upgrade..

He's got 5 Mamba Maxes?!

Does this mean you are gonna get like 10 Monster Max by the time it comes out?

Joe will surely be happy about that..:)

Hm. I've upgraded my MM several times, and likeways my Mamba and have never bricked an ESC. I've also upgraded other people's Mambas (talking 1/18th scale here) and other MM and haven't had a problem.

Maybe the castle link isn't the root cause?

Sleeb

That makes sense, high center of gravity and short wheelbase, my first brushless maxx was an extended Gmaxx

I agree, I have two emails with them currently, one about the first incident(the one in my t4 that acts like its been wiped, castle link will not recognize it) and another telling them I'm moving on from castle, not sure what i'll try next.

To all who are thinking of getting the mamba max, I'm not telling you to not get one, just telling my experience. The mamba's worked perfectly and never thermaled (one for almost a year) before the 2.23 update. I still believe that the mamba is the best esc/escmotor combo i have ever seen.

Here's an irony i just realized, the three esc/combo's i got from Mike are fine, even with the update, The ones i got outside of Mike ( one from castle when they came out, one from starluck, scale plane thing, and he was selling mambacombo"s for 175) both failed. Now is that funny or what. Buy from Mike, its worth it

I might skip the MMM, if the castle link 2.23 is still the current update

According to what i read on other forums, its only a max issue. the mamba 25 and all other esc's don't seem to have the issue with 2.23. I wish i could say it was a driver issue like Castle says, but 2 out of 5 in my stable, thats weird

Plus the same thing happend to me right before it happend to you, so I think its the Castle Link...Personally, I think thats the problem...

I can't see the code, and i wouldn't know what i'm looking at (I'm a computer idiot) but i think there is something wrong, one of them (my mamba maxxes) was wiped while connected and no magnets around.

Is it really that important to program it via computer?

Honestly, guys, we want to run our vehicles for pleasure. We're not designing and prototyping a missle.( look who's talking..:010: ).

I hear you there. I might try a couple setups just to see what works good, but then I leave it like that. I've seen some people actually bring laptops to a race to fine tune things (glassdoctor ;)). Maybe some people are that good that they can tell the difference after making minute changes, I dunno.

To be honest, All I did was turn down the brakes, put the timing kinda low, made it to where the throttle wouldn't be so sensitive, and put it in forward only...

all i ever did was update the link and brought the esc up so i could do the cutoffs without problems, matter of fact the first one to stop working i started to change the cut off to 6 cell NIMH (5.9v) so i could see the difference. and that esc never gave me trouble till i updated it, not a skip, stutter or thermal, I have had it for almost a year and now its dead, the computer will not recognize it

(getting out from under the bus, lol...)

yeah actually there are certain settings that anyone can feel if you are racing... like drag brake and punch etc... it's very cool to be able to see all the setting at a glance, and then change something with two clicks and see if it helped...

But I have to say I would prefer to leave the laptop at home or at least in the car. And once you have got things dialed in and working ok... you will rarely need to mess with the settings anyway.

But it's nice to mess with stuff until you get it how you like.

As for this software update disaster.. I'm not touching the new versions for now... there is no need to update the software anyway. Nothing critical is in it for the MM. I'm sure there will be a future update that actually has goodies for the MM.... like the neu/novak profiles, etc. Then I will make the change...