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BrianG 07.14.2008 11:35 AM

:lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 191199)
FYI I think there is an error on the LPR Crimefighter tire size in you R/C Tire data page. My LPR Crimefighters measure 5.8" not 5.25". I'm betting you got that from Tower who if I remeber correctly also has the wrong size at 5.25"

IIRC, most of the tire sizes came from Arct1k - I never confirmed them. I assume he did all the hard work of doing the research, but I dunno where the data came from. I'll fix it after the site comes back online...

Arct1k 07.14.2008 11:43 AM

They did - the LPR's tire sizes weren't listed on the prolineracing site so I think I got them from tower - I had nothing else to validate the measurements against.

jnev 07.14.2008 07:46 PM

Something happened to the speed calculator for some reason... it worked yesterday, but now (today) when I go on it, it says: Error 404 - Not found

Any ideas?

Daddydancool 07.15.2008 12:00 AM

yup, same for me here... :(

Motoman 07.15.2008 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 191195)
FYI: My webserver is currently down, so the calc is unavailable until it comes back up (forgot to pay the bill). Until then, you can download the ZIP file and use it on your computer.

Check this post above, the server is currently down.:whistle:
Just download it if you need it.

jnev 07.15.2008 01:13 AM

Must have missed where he said that. Sorry! :oops:

BrianG 07.15.2008 12:26 PM

In case it's not obvious, the site is back up. Sorry everyone for the inconvenience.

notnodak 07.15.2008 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 191199)
Love the "easter egg" 1:1 car tire size page. Never saw that before. :lol:



FYI I think there is an error on the LPR Crimefighter tire size in you R/C Tire data page. My LPR Crimefighters measure 5.8" not 5.25". I'm betting you got that from Tower who if I remeber correctly also has the wrong size at 5.25"



So LPR would be the almost the same size as E-Maxx tires?

Arct1k 07.15.2008 01:54 PM

How are you finding 1and1

BrianG 07.15.2008 02:04 PM

I like them. No troubles so far (except when I forget to pay my bill). Once in a while, I get an email from them saying one of my scripts is malware, but I just tell them it's not and wait another 6 months before they send the same email. :rolleyes: Other than that, it's fine. No downtime that I know of. Domain name and lots of space for ~$30/year.

BrianG 07.23.2008 01:36 PM

Added Slayer info...

BrianG 07.28.2008 10:08 AM

Added E-Revo differential and transmission data.

Also, I want to take a minute and say thank you for your donations for the site! I don't know if you want your names mentioned, but you know who you are!

BrianG 08.12.2008 10:45 AM

Added note about not using the no-spark circuit for the Mamba Max/Monster ESCs. Read the release notes and/or the note on the no-spark page for more information.

abiye 08.13.2008 10:53 AM

any details on why?

bl-is-future 08.13.2008 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abiye (Post 201246)
any details on why?

Causes voltage spikes that will fry the ESC.

Gee 09.10.2008 05:14 PM

Brian,

A suggestion for your already excellent web page. Don't know if you have time or think it would be worth the effort but never hurts to ask......

Maybe add an option to say your parameter solver or speed calculator that would pump out a table of what the est speed would be for say 10 different size pinions in increments of 1.

Don't know if I saying it correctly.

For example you would put all the info in for your RC on the est speed calc. Then instead of needing to go back and changing the pinion size from 10, 11, 12, etc. to see the different speed you would get. You could hit a button and it could display a table or something with the different speed you'd get for say a 10T - 20T pinion. It be cool then to go back and change the spur gear and see what the table would put out using the same pinions. Even on the reverse side say it would pump out the size pinion for estimated speeds of 30, 35, 45, 50, etc.

What do you think?

brushlessboy16 09.10.2008 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 195572)
Added E-Revo differential and transmission data.

Also, I want to take a minute and say thank you for your donations for the site! I don't know if you want your names mentioned, but you know who you are!

:yes:

np i sent in the last of my PP money- better then none i suppose and going to a good cause

BrianG 09.10.2008 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gee (Post 211179)
Brian,

A suggestion for your already excellent web page. Don't know if you have time or think it would be worth the effort but never hurts to ask......

Maybe add an option to say your parameter solver or speed calculator that would pump out a table of what the est speed would be for say 10 different size pinions in increments of 1.

Don't know if I saying it correctly.

For example you would put all the info in for your RC on the est speed calc. Then instead of needing to go back and changing the pinion size from 10, 11, 12, etc. to see the different speed you would get. You could hit a button and it could display a table or something with the different speed you'd get for say a 10T - 20T pinion. It be cool then to go back and change the spur gear and see what the table would put out using the same pinions. Even on the reverse side say it would pump out the size pinion for estimated speeds of 30, 35, 45, 50, etc.

What do you think?

I know what you mean. I'll have to think of a way to do this so it makes sense.

BLboy: thanks again!

Takedown 09.27.2008 09:34 PM

Custom 1/4 dragster Build
 
This has helped me so much. Thanks Brian.

BrianG 10.14.2008 10:41 AM

Update:

- Fixed a small display bug in the Data Tables page
- Fixed motor length value for Medusa 60mm motors (was listed as 50mm long).
- Added the few new 50 and 60mm Medusa Motors, as well as all the 70 and 80mm motors.

Arct1k 10.14.2008 01:29 PM

Did you get a chance to add the ax10?

BrianG 10.14.2008 01:30 PM

Oops, no. :oops:

I saved the PM as a reminder to go out and get the gear tooth counts, but forgot. I'll add it to my to-do list. :smile:

portyansky 10.14.2008 01:37 PM

Brian, this speed calculator is freaking sweeeeet, thank you!!

MetalMan 10.14.2008 02:55 PM

If you want, you can also add the HPI MT2 and HPI Wheely King diff ratios, which are the same as the AX10 (38/13). The Wheely King does have a transmission, but I have no idea what the ratio is.

BrianG 10.14.2008 02:59 PM

I'm downloading the 35MB kit diagram for the AX-10 as I write this. I'll add those ratios as well...

portyansky: Thanks! :smile:

BrianG 10.14.2008 03:38 PM

More updates:

- Fixed display bug for transmission data in Data Tables page.
- Added Axial AX-10 Crawler differential and transmission ratios, and spur gear sizes.
- Added differential ratios for HPI MT2 and HPI Wheely King.

Arct1k 10.14.2008 04:41 PM

Thank you....

MetalMan 10.14.2008 05:15 PM

Great! One of these days I ought to click that Paypal link.

JThiessen 10.18.2008 05:23 PM

Question - I noticed that if one does not use the preselected spurs, the calculators have no way of recognizing which pitch you are using, therefore, the calculations must assume a basic pitch. Is it mod1?

Thanks.

BrianG 10.18.2008 08:01 PM

Actually, the pitch is not needed at all in the calculations, they are just there for informational purposes. The calculations simply use the tooth count...

BrianG 10.20.2008 12:44 PM

Before I get any PM's: Yeah, I know the site is down. 1and1.com is apparently having some issues (even their main site isn't working). If you "need" the calc, it looks like you should have downloaded the zip archive, eh? :wink:

NVM, they seem to have rectified their problem. Carry on...

mikey09120 10.20.2008 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gee (Post 211179)
Brian,

A suggestion for your already excellent web page. Don't know if you have time or think it would be worth the effort but never hurts to ask......

Maybe add an option to say your parameter solver or speed calculator that would pump out a table of what the est speed would be for say 10 different size pinions in increments of 1.

Don't know if I saying it correctly.

For example you would put all the info in for your RC on the est speed calc. Then instead of needing to go back and changing the pinion size from 10, 11, 12, etc. to see the different speed you would get. You could hit a button and it could display a table or something with the different speed you'd get for say a 10T - 20T pinion. It be cool then to go back and change the spur gear and see what the table would put out using the same pinions. Even on the reverse side say it would pump out the size pinion for estimated speeds of 30, 35, 45, 50, etc.

What do you think?

+1:yes:

skellyo 10.24.2008 10:51 AM

Just out of curiousity Brian, why do you have the B4/T4 transmission ratio under the differential gear ratio and not under the transmission gear ratio section?

BrianG 10.24.2008 01:22 PM

I don't know. A mistake perhaps? :oops:

FYI: I took a look at adding a popup table to list speeds with different pinons, or spurs, whatever, and decided against it. Just adds a level of complexity I don't really want to deal with. More like tedium than complexity. :smile:

What I DO want to add is an alert of some kind which will tell the user if they are geared too high. There is a point in gearing where the motor is not spinning fast enough per mph for smooth low speed/take-off operation (around 1mph). Looking back, it seems I set my vehicles up for around 1000+ rpm per mph and everything runs fine. I'd like to know if there is a good rule of thumb regarding this, but would also depend on motor size of course.

On a similar vein, GriffinRU had provided some input on this topic a while back with regards to the minimum motor rpm needed for adequate back-EMF pulses from the motor. The idea was dropped because my simple mind could not grasp what he was talking about, but I think it would be worthwhile to have this kind of data available.

BrianG 11.05.2008 07:40 PM

I posted the following in another thread. If it IS accurate, and would be of use, I can add it to the calc:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Me
BTW: I don't think speed scales like the size does. From what I gather from this page, the formula for finding scale speed is:

1:1 speed = SQRT(scale) X scale_model_speed

So, if your 8th scale RC does 60mph, that scales up to SQRT(8) X 60 = 169.2mph.
Similarly, if your 10th scale RC does 90mph, that scales up to 284mph.

If someone can verify this, I can add this to the speed calc. :smile:

Just want to make sure the formula is accurate...

While I'm at it, no one has any information about the following?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Me again
What I DO want to add is an alert of some kind which will tell the user if they are geared too high. There is a point in gearing where the motor is not spinning fast enough per mph for smooth low speed/take-off operation (around 1mph). Looking back, it seems I set my vehicles up for around 1000+ rpm per mph and everything runs fine. I'd like to know if there is a good rule of thumb regarding this, but would also depend on motor size of course.

On a similar vein, GriffinRU had provided some input on this topic a while back with regards to the minimum motor rpm needed for adequate back-EMF pulses from the motor. The idea was dropped because my simple mind could not grasp what he was talking about, but I think it would be worthwhile to have this kind of data available.


portyansky 11.05.2008 10:22 PM

Is there any way you could put info on 4wd elec trucks (zx-5,xxx4 etc...)
Thanks, I love this program!

BrianG 11.06.2008 01:16 PM

Well, I would need the info you want entered. Read this (specifically the topic "How do I submit data for a transmission or differential?"). I hate dissecting parts lists and exploded diagrams for the needed values, so if you can provide the data, I will be more than happy to add it...

RC-Monster Mike 11.12.2008 01:41 PM

http://rcgearing.com/

Here is another potentialy helpful gearing site. :)

SnoopMaxx 11.15.2008 02:04 PM

Hi Brian
I really love your calculator :yipi:

My E-Maxx has a top speed around 28 Mph with 2 Kyosho 550 motors
(Same as a 1750kv rating)

Would a MMM v3 2200kv be too much for my old Maxx ? (35 Mph)


brushlessboy16 11.15.2008 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopMaxx (Post 232976)
Hi Brian
I really love your calculator :yipi:

My E-Maxx has a top speed around 28 Mph with 2 Kyosho 550 motors
(Same as a 1750kv rating)

Would a MMM v3 2200kv be too much for my old Maxx ? (35 Mph)


depends on what batts you run, and what you have done to the drive train..


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