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BrianG 10.15.2010 11:38 PM

I used a couple of lock nuts there. It's hard to see detail, but here's a view of mine:

http://scriptasylum.com/bl_conversio...es/ten_t_5.jpg

bigh8840 10.16.2010 04:42 PM

is the mmm and 2200 overkill for this conversion, or would the 2650kv cc motor a better fit, or even the cc clearence 1800 motor 1.5 turn?

would i be req to run a 4s batt as well? just trying to get a general idea. I want to run it in a sct class. i've read quite a bit on the forum, just looking for a quick non-confusing answer :)

thanks guys

bryan 10.16.2010 06:44 PM

I would grab ahold of a 1512 1800kv while you can. I,m really happy with it in my TenT.

BrianG 10.16.2010 06:59 PM

Yeah, the 2200 would be overkill IMO. The 1512 size motors are perfect; plenty of power and stay cool while not being overly heavy.

XXXDAD 10.18.2010 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigh8840 (Post 384256)
is the mmm and 2200 overkill for this conversion, or would the 2650kv cc motor a better fit, or even the cc clearence 1800 motor 1.5 turn?

would i be req to run a 4s batt as well? just trying to get a general idea. I want to run it in a sct class. i've read quite a bit on the forum, just looking for a quick non-confusing answer :)

thanks guys

At my track we an only run 1/10 scale motors so a 550 size is as big as it gets. 2 cell...... see what your local track alows! :oh:

bigh8840 11.05.2010 07:02 PM

so with the 1512 do i have to run a 4 cell?
or would 3 be ok....etc..

bryan 11.06.2010 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigh8840 (Post 386717)
so with the 1512 do i have to run a 4 cell?
or would 3 be ok....etc..

I run 4s with the 1512 and love it

Bondonutz 11.27.2010 02:28 PM

With Bryan's help I've decided to build a 10T myself. I read the first few pages of BrainG's thread when it first started but was distracted with other things, now the more I read and research on this RC the more I want one. Will be selling one of my E-Revos to fund this new build, can't wait !

Already decided on a 1800kv 1512,MMM and possibly 3s, maybe 4s depends how the power to weight ratio is on the track with buggy tires ?

bryan 11.27.2010 03:52 PM

Thats good news J !! I dont think you will be a bit disapointed with the Ten. It's my favorite R/C of the heard

GO-RIDE.com 12.02.2010 06:53 PM

Hey Bryan,

How do you think a 810E buggy (Ten-T in buggy trim) would run with a Tekin SC4X 3400 motor & RSPro ESC on 3S. I'm looking at building a light 1/8E buggy for indoors and saving weight on the motor/esc/lipo would help a lot.

jhautz 12.02.2010 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GO-RIDE.com (Post 389187)
Hey Bryan,

How do you think a 810E buggy (Ten-T in buggy trim) would run with a Tekin SC4X 3400 motor & RSPro ESC on 3S. I'm looking at building a light 1/8E buggy for indoors and saving weight on the motor/esc/lipo would help a lot.

I think it will run great.

Just starting that exact project now. Only Im using a Novak HV 7.5 instead. Got it for $65 on the novak site. With Mikes conversion kit and 3s Hyperion 6500 pack. Shooting for a sub 6lb 1/8 buggy for racing indoors this winter.

Im starting a separate thread on it now.:mdr:
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...220#post389220

bryan 12.02.2010 10:52 PM

CASTLE 1512 1800KV"on sale" W/MMM or MMP.Inexpensive fast and a high quality product.Castle also has a new line of s/c motors now you may want to check out.

bryan 12.02.2010 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 389214)
I think it will run great.

Just starting that exact project now. Only Im using a Novak HV 7.5 instead. Got it for $65 on the novak site. With Mikes conversion kit and 3s Hyperion 6500 pack. Shooting for a sub 6lb 1/8 buggy for racing indoors this winter.

Im starting a separate thread on it now.:mdr:

Cant wait to read about your build JHAUTZ:whip:

GO-RIDE.com 12.05.2010 01:03 PM

Thanks guys. I'll follow your new post JHAUTZ.

Bondonutz 12.11.2010 02:54 PM

Finially ordered mine !
After I sell the messy stuff and the radio, Mikes kit will be next.

Me and a buddy are trying to decide weither to go 3s or 4s running a 1512 1800kv motor
The trucks are primarly for the track with a little bashing.
Objective is keep it light as possible hence wanting to use the 3s and MambaPro but the 25T pinion and low RPM's make me wonder if 4s would be better suited ?

Your opions please ????

Heres with 3s
Differential Ratio: 3.888888888888889
Transmission Ratio: 1
Other Ratio: 1
Spur Tooth Count: 52
Pinion Tooth Count: 25T with little gearing options
Total Voltage: 11.10
Motor KV: 1800
Tire Diameter (inches): 4.5
Tire Ballooning (inches): .10
Motor Current Draw: 0
Motor Coil Resistance: 0
Spur/Pinion Ratio: 2.08 : 1
Total Ratio: 8.08889 : 1
Tire Circumference (inches): 14.77 inches (375.04 mm)
Rollout: 1.83:1
Total Motor Speed: 19980 RPM to low ?
Vehicle Speed: 34.54 mph (55.48 km/h)
Effective KV Value: 1800
KT constant: 0.75 oz-in/A
Motor Torque: Amperage not specified...
Final Torque: Amperage not specified...
Final Power: Amperage not specified...

And 4s
Differential Ratio: 3.888888888888889
Transmission Ratio: 1
Other Ratio: 1
Spur Tooth Count: 52
Pinion Tooth Count: 20
Total Voltage: 14.80
Motor KV: 1800
Tire Diameter (inches): 4.5
Tire Ballooning (inches): .10
Motor Current Draw: 0
Motor Coil Resistance: 0
Spur/Pinion Ratio: 2.6 : 1
Total Ratio: 10.11111 : 1
Tire Circumference (inches): 14.77 inches (375.04 mm)
Rollout: 1.46:1
Total Motor Speed: 26640 RPM
Vehicle Speed: 36.84 mph (59.18 km/h)
Effective KV Value: 1800
KT constant: 0.75 oz-in/A
Motor Torque: Amperage not specified...
Final Torque: Amperage not specified...
Final Power: Amperage not specified...

BrianG 12.11.2010 04:11 PM

I personally would go with 4s on an 1800kv motor. If motor rpms are too low, especially on sensorless, startup may be a bit rough. Of course, if using a sensored setup, this isn't a concern.

Bondonutz 12.11.2010 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 390131)
I personally would go with 4s on an 1800kv motor. If motor rpms are too low, especially on sensorless, startup may be a bit rough. Of course, if using a sensored setup, this isn't a concern.

We will be running sensorless,
Thanks for solidfying my thoughts sir.

Curious about your run times whom run on 4s, what could I roughly expect with 4000mah packs ?

Bondonutz 12.11.2010 10:03 PM

I know this is a very popular combo for buggys but what about for this application ?

3s, MMPro, 2650kv

Comments ?

Differential Ratio: 3.888888888888889
Transmission Ratio: 1
Other Ratio: 1
Spur Tooth Count: 52
Pinion Tooth Count: 19
Total Voltage: 11.10
Motor KV: 2650
Tire Diameter (inches): 4.5
Tire Ballooning (inches): .10
Motor Current Draw: 0
Motor Coil Resistance: 0.0035
Spur/Pinion Ratio: 2.74 : 1
Total Ratio: 10.64327 : 1
Tire Circumference (inches): 14.77 inches (375.04 mm)
Rollout: 1.39:1
Total Motor Speed: 29415 RPM
Vehicle Speed: 38.64 mph (62.07 km/h)
Effective KV Value: 2650
KT constant: 0.51 oz-in/A
Motor Torque: Amperage not specified...
Final Torque: Amperage not specified...
Final Power: Amperage not specified...

BrianG 12.11.2010 11:40 PM

3s on the 2650 motor would be better rpm-wise IMO.

I run 4s on the Tekin 1700kv buggy motor setup and get around 25-30 minutes of runtime at a rough guess.

bryan 12.12.2010 01:58 AM

3s 2650/4s 1512 your gaining weight and losing weight somewere else.Jeff i friggin love mine with the 1512 on 4s.

Bondonutz 12.12.2010 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 390169)
3s on the 2650 motor would be better rpm-wise IMO.

I run 4s on the Tekin 1700kv buggy motor setup and get around 25-30 minutes of runtime at a rough guess.

Thats the run time I looking for, or dang close

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryan (Post 390179)
3s 2650/4s 1512 your gaining weight and losing weight somewere else.Jeff i friggin love mine with the 1512 on 4s.

I know I know, But I'm a little concerned 4s might be a bit much for the track. I'm trying to set my buddy up the with the same set up but he's not as able to control the power, he's realitively new to BL so 4s he's gonna be all over the place. He's a few weeks behind me on building his so I reckon I'm just gonna have to expeiment some, just hopeing to save myself haveing to rebuild mine 2-3times to find the perfect track combo.

Thanks for your help gentlemen

lucias 12.16.2010 01:29 AM

what bodies are you guys running on your ten t's? any after market ones fit ok?

Bondonutz 12.16.2010 09:15 AM

I have yet to have my 10T in hand but was thinking Stampede bodys might be perportionate ?
When I ordered mine this week I went ahead and picked up a clear body also, as great as the stock bodies look theres only 2 colors, kinda lame selection.

Bondonutz 12.17.2010 02:50 PM

H e l p !!
 
Someone help me please !

What are the ID measurements of the RCM Ten-T battery tray ???

THANK YOU!

bryan 12.17.2010 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bondonutz (Post 390799)
Someone help me please !

What are the ID measurements of the RCM Ten-T battery tray ???

THANK YOU!

50-160mm:lol:

Bondonutz 12.17.2010 03:22 PM

Thanks Bryan, I'm getting ready to order some 4s packs and thought I'd better check !

Plenty of room, with the Hyperion pack in the pic on RCM site I thought the tray might only be 44-45mm wide.

So you running 500mah packs ?
I decided on 4000mah packs to try and lighten the load a bit .

bryan 12.17.2010 03:35 PM

Yeah, I have two 5000 mah packs,and one 4500mah hardcase.

Bondonutz 12.18.2010 04:59 PM

Hey Bryan, do you think a 51mm pack will squeeze into the tray ?

bryan 12.18.2010 05:15 PM

It's a tight 50mm..Theres plenty of material there you could dremel off if need be.

Bondonutz 12.18.2010 05:46 PM

Yeah but option #2 requires more work. ;-)

Thanks Pal, Hope your having a good weekend.
Ben raining all day here but we managed to get to the track for a couple packs this AM in Slash 4x4's.

OBTW, the truck is a lot smaller that I thought it would be, Losi site said it's WB was 1/2" longet than my buggy and it's the same. Overall diamentions are so close to a 1/8scale buggy is kinda dissapoints me in that aspect. On the flip side I love my buggy so well see how this thing acts and handles ?

Tweeker 12.29.2010 05:16 PM

3 Attachment(s)
Introducing Bad Ju Ju.

I run a MMM w/ 2200kv and 4s. I ran 6s once - over the curb, through the flowers, cartwheeling into the air, and ouch, right into the rear door of my pickup. I think 4s is plenty of power.

The 1:8 buggy tires are mounted via a set of modified Revo hubs and the body is a trimmed ProGraphix Revo.

Good stuff!

bryan 12.29.2010 07:06 PM

Looks good...

IIICJACKIII 12.29.2010 10:56 PM

Well I already have the RCM electric conv. for mine and I am wanting to change it to a sct now. Sounds like I will need
1. Slash 4x4 front bumper
2. Proline Protrak rims
3. Slash 4x4 front and rear body mounts
I was wondering what body fits the best, what hex's will I need for the rims, what rear bumper fits best?
If I forgot some thing please let me know.
Also what dif. setup would be a good starting point for an indoor clay track, med. bite kinda tight?
Also I will have to run 2s lipo, what would be a good motor setup for 2s?
Thanks a lot for any help,
Chad

reno911 12.30.2010 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IIICJACKIII (Post 392076)
Well I already have the RCM electric conv. for mine and I am wanting to change it to a sct now. Sounds like I will need
1. Slash 4x4 front bumper
2. Proline Protrak rims
3. Slash 4x4 front and rear body mounts
I was wondering what body fits the best, what hex's will I need for the rims, what rear bumper fits best?
If I forgot some thing please let me know.
Also what dif. setup would be a good starting point for an indoor clay track, med. bite kinda tight?
Also I will have to run 2s lipo, what would be a good motor setup for 2s?
Thanks a lot for any help,
Chad

The best body from all the riff raff is anything for the blitz.

Best rear bumper is the rpm slash 4x4.

Stock hexes can be shaved, or drill some slash hexes, or tekno hexes.

Diff set up that I run on an extremely tight track with high bite. 7-10-3

With two cell I would recommend the Castle SCT edition 1410 motor, someone here is running it with great results over the newer 550 cans. Pair that up with a reasonable ESC and your going to be golden.

Ofna SCRT10 body mounts work really well also. Some drilling and trimming is needed but they work really well.

A few precautions, the rpm slash 4x4 front bumper works well, but if not reinforced it is a waste of your time.

Also, I went 17mm hex so if you need a cheap set of protrack wheels PM me I have 4 sitting at home with no way of using them!

Bondonutz 12.30.2010 12:53 PM

Hey Reno,

I run my 10T on a tight ,fairly technical track but dry loose conditons, what diff wt would you recomend ? Right now I'm at 7/10/3 its works ok but I know it could be better just a little unsure would to do next. Any advice would be appreciated.

ta_man 01.24.2011 05:15 PM

So anybody notice with the new Ten-SCTE (http://www.losi.com/Products/Default...rodID=LOSB0127) Losi is now using a MOD1 plastic spur gear?

BrianG 01.24.2011 05:33 PM

Makes sense unless Losi also wants to provide a set of wacky pitch pinions for the various setups people will use. If they made it RTR, they probably would have stuck with their oddball pitch and include the pinion (or two) specific to their stock setup.

reno911 01.30.2011 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bondonutz (Post 392137)
Hey Reno,

I run my 10T on a tight ,fairly technical track but dry loose conditons, what diff wt would you recomend ? Right now I'm at 7/10/3 its works ok but I know it could be better just a little unsure would to do next. Any advice would be appreciated.

Pretty much what I run.

I went to 6ish (mixed some 7 and 5) in the front just recently and it gives a little better rebound to gunning it out of a turn.

Bondonutz 01.30.2011 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reno911 (Post 395950)
Pretty much what I run.

I went to 6ish (mixed some 7 and 5) in the front just recently and it gives a little better rebound to gunning it out of a turn.

I've done some reading on a couple different forums and looks like 5/5/3 is a fairly common set up. Seems like it's a step in the right direction for our tracks here, hopefully tearing the diffs and changing will not be a waste of time ?

Thanks

V0RT3X 03.02.2011 10:52 AM

1512 1800kV
20/52 (~40mph)
4S 4000 nanotech 45C (158x49 should fit?)

Will this be a good setup? Just need to decide on a ESC now.


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