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rchippie 03.28.2008 08:59 PM

I just noticed there longest motor is only 60mm long. My 9xl is over 70mm long. Would,nt that affect the amount of torque ?.

Five-oh-joe 03.28.2008 09:17 PM

Lutach, you're correct in the modules and pitches thing. The Vendetta and Vendetta ST use Mod .5, which is "48 pitch metric" (that is what most people call it; it is in use on Tamiya vehicles such as the TT-01, but it is not the proper term).

I use Tamiya pinions on my Vendetta ST with a 430L 3550kv align outrunner motor. It's geared 19/45 on a 2s apogee 1500 magnum pack. With all the settings turned down on the quark 33, it still has tons of scoot.:mdr: (<- that's my face every time I grab some throttle)

lutach 03.28.2008 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Five-oh-joe (Post 158634)
Lutach, you're correct in the modules and pitches thing. The Vendetta and Vendetta ST use Mod .5, which is "48 pitch metric" (that is what most people call it; it is in use on Tamiya vehicles such as the TT-01, but it is not the proper term).

I use Tamiya pinions on my Vendetta ST with a 430L 3550kv align outrunner motor. It's geared 19/45 on a 2s apogee 1500 magnum pack. With all the settings turned down on the quark 33, it still has tons of scoot.:mdr: (<- that's my face every time I grab some throttle)

Ok, so I do know a little bit :yipi:. I have 4 of the Align type motors, but mine I think are 3600Kv and I'm going to try something Eliica type R/C car, but instead of 8 wheels, I'll try 4 wheels first :lol:.

Duster_360 03.29.2008 03:55 PM

I've got a lot of hrs on my Vendetta and run 2S lipo. Breakage probs seem to start happening when you get above 3500kv. I run stock cvds in mine and other than having to CA the drive pins into the ends of the cvds have never had a prob - I did upgrade to alum outdrives, only other thing I've needed to do. Stock gear diffs won't take the higher kv. I got over 2 yrs running stock gear diffs using a 3500 CoolRed heli motor. Caught the ball diffs at 1/2 price and made that change just cause it was too cheap not too, but could have stayed with stock diffs.

I got some of the 1st DTX cvds came out that were absolute junk and are still bummed out about how lousy those were. Modded a set of cvds using alum tbg and rc18 alum bones buy have not needed them.

I've fooled around with hyperion 5000, golden horizons 4700 motors in my Vendetta and MQs (I have a total of 4). I have a feigao 280 on my bench as my next project with a quark 33.

wallot 03.29.2008 04:17 PM

280L 3500kv 45/16 is not bad for bashing
GH4700 is a nice motor at 45/13 for racing
but the best is permax 400/4D 5200kv which unfortunatelly is no longer made so my second choice would be ammo 28-35-5100.
L version of hyperion Y22 5000kv is not bad either

Vendetta uses mod 0.6 gears. so if you pick a 1/8" shaft motor like ammo you can use tamiya mode .6 gears.
for 2mm shaft atomic makes pinions and for standard 2.3mm duratrax and atomic

duratrax vendetta=lrp shark=ftx blaze=anderson mb4=yokomo mb4

Five-oh-joe 03.29.2008 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by wallot (Post 158779)
280L 3500kv 45/16 is not bad for bashing
GH4700 is a nice motor at 45/13 for racing
but the best is permax 400/4D 5200kv which unfortunatelly is no longer made so my second choice would be ammo 28-35-5100.
L version of hyperion Y22 5000kv is not bad either

Vendetta uses mod 0.6 gears. so if you pick a 1/8" shaft motor like ammo you can use tamiya mode .6 gears.
for 2mm shaft atomic makes pinions and for standard 2.3mm duratrax and atomic

duratrax vendetta=lrp shark=ftx blaze=anderson mb4=yokomo mb4

Oops. Subconsciously, I was thinking about my Trinity NOW, which uses Mod .5; my mistake. (It's sitting under the bed right now, and I've been thinking about running it all week, but the spur is chewed up:gasp:)

lutach 03.29.2008 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Five-oh-joe (Post 158787)
Oops. Subconsciously, I was thinking about my Trinity NOW, which uses Mod .5; my mistake. (It's sitting under the bed right now, and I've been thinking about running it all week, but the spur is chewed up:gasp:)

I was wrong :oh:, but I was close and now I know something new :yes:.

Five-oh-joe 03.30.2008 12:58 AM

To be fair, we were both wrong about something. And if I've learned anything from life, two wrongs make a right....sort of.:mdr: Hehe (I made a funny!).

lutach 03.30.2008 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Five-oh-joe (Post 158896)
To be fair, we were both wrong about something. And if I've learned anything from life, two wrongs make a right....sort of.:mdr: Hehe (I made a funny!).

I'm always learning something new. I like getting new updates. Too bad I can't find a hole to plug a USB cale. I remember watching a show on the Science Channel of a guy controlling a PC with his brain.

Five-oh-joe 03.30.2008 01:25 AM

I think I saw that, or at least something similar. One day that will be a reality; just download an "update" and voila! You're an engineer now! Our brain has freakish potentials. And now back to our regularly scheduled thread. Hehe.

bluonyx 03.30.2008 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 158628)
The Hyperion Long Can YC22L features a 2.3mm shaft & a choice between 3900, 4400 & 5000Kv making it perfect for the Duratrax Mini-Quake & Vendetta and other vehicles requiring a 2.3mm shaft for its gear set and for those wishing to run on 6-10nimh cells or 2-3 cell li-poly packs. (we reccomend the 3900 & 4400 for 3 cell li-poly/8-10cell nimh & the 5000 for 2-3 cell li-poly/6-8cell nimh). The YC22L & Mamba 25 combo comes with stainless steel hardware and 3.5mm gold plugs ready to be installed. It also comes with adhesive filmed metal tape to be used on the back of the motor to block the rear vent holes for use in dirt/sand


http://b-p-p.com/proddetail.php?prod=de_YC22L

I just got the Hyperion YC22L for my quake and it's awesome, way better than the 4200 and 5400 mamba. It cogged constantly. Believe me, I tried both and wasted my money. I should have checked with BPP first. They're recommended setup were perfect. I'm running it with a 16T 2.3mm pinion and heatsink from TheToyz.com

lincpimp 03.30.2008 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Five-oh-joe (Post 158899)
I think I saw that, or at least something similar. One day that will be a reality; just download an "update" and voila! You're an engineer now! Our brain has freakish potentials. And now back to our regularly scheduled thread. Hehe.

Ah yes, but there will never be a way to update a slow witted person.

Five-oh-joe 03.30.2008 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 158946)
Ah yes, but there will never be a way to update a slow witted person.

We could always try.:mdr:

miniGranis 03.30.2008 03:42 PM

To bring things back on topic....
I found what I hope is a decent bundle from a reseller here in Sweden:
ESC: http://www.himodel.com/electric/HiMo...R-FLY-30A.html
Motor 5100KV: http://www.himodel.com/electric/HiMo..._B2040-6T.html

I hope it will be OK for my use, I need to get a few new pinions though, any ideas on what range to aim for ?

Five-oh-joe 03.30.2008 03:52 PM

That motor's a little small for a Vendetta I think. The Vendetta uses 28mm diameter motors. That motor is 20mm. I don't think that little guy will be able to handle the heavier Vendetta without overheating. It's even shorter than a mamba 25 motor by 5mm, and I'm pretty sure even those guys have issues with the larger minis.

If you are set on using that setup though, I suggest starting with the smallest pinion, and working your way up. You probably won't be able to run too large of a pinion with that motor at all. Now that I think about it, I'm not sure how it's even going to bolt up to the Vendetta's motor plate either.


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