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rabosi 05.26.2008 09:46 PM

My neu motor (not teckno) also runs hotter than i expected. I wonder if the cogging was that bad in the older design to justify the hotter running of the new design. Anyone have experience with both types?

Gallagher 05.26.2008 10:10 PM

I was told from Tekno that the hotter temperature could be the consquence of enclosed front and rear end or the gearing problem. There should not be any difference of performance in both designs.
Nevertheless, I think maybe desing is one thing; reality is another.
If this is really trend of new Neu motor, I would be very curious about how the new rotor and stator design look like?

fkadir 05.26.2008 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macr0w (Post 176692)
Is yours a Neu or a Tekno Neu? :neutral:

Mine's an older-version Neu. Apparently the newest motors from Neu have a new design to minimise cogging. :)

zeropointbug 05.26.2008 11:55 PM

'new design to minimize cogging' .... What the #$!@ could they have done differently to reduce cogging?! This is almost entirely up to controller design, not so much motor... but, who knows. What cogging has to be reduced anyhow? My Neu (1512) hardly ever cogs.

lincpimp 05.27.2008 12:08 AM

I have a 1515 1.5d, and was also supprised to see that it turned over easily by hand without a pinion. I am not sure how old it is, as I bought it used. I do have a medusa v2 motor, which is supposedly a neu clone. The shaft is much harder to turn than the neu.

I can still feel the magnet poles on my neu, it does not spin as easily as a hacker of feigao.

What's_nitro? 05.27.2008 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeropointbug (Post 176923)
'new design to minimize cogging' .... What the #$!@ could they have done differently to reduce cogging?! This is almost entirely up to controller design, not so much motor... but, who knows. What cogging has to be reduced anyhow? My Neu (1512) hardly ever cogs.

Maybe, instead of having the stator slots be parallel to the rotor poles, they twisted the stator into a sort of helix so that the rotor's poles are always engaged to more than one "slot". Thus making it fell smoother since the poles aren't "jumping" between slots.

zeropointbug 05.27.2008 01:32 AM

That would be a slotless design...

What's_nitro? 05.27.2008 01:49 AM

I'll give you semi-slotless. Slotless motors have no laminations in the stator.

zeropointbug 05.27.2008 01:50 AM

There are varying degrees of slotless as well...

zeropointbug 05.27.2008 02:52 AM

Yeah, I'm 1 min too late bro.... :tongue:

johnrobholmes 05.27.2008 08:30 AM

My vote would be that the stator is skewed as well. Magnetic detents (cogging as you are calling it) are determined by the magnetic pole/ stator count ratio as well as the magnet strength and motor design. I doubt that Neu went slotless, so the most likely choice is that they skewed the stator laminations. It shouldn't actually effect the efficiency, but it will make the motor roll easier and put less vibration through the vehicle.

rabosi 05.27.2008 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacII (Post 176733)
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that this was an intentional design change. I think it may help the motor's ability to coast in neutral as opposed to effectively brake in neutral. Not sure however so I'd suggest you check with Tekno.

Cogging may be the wrong term to use here. The above quote is probably the issue.

nl12 05.27.2008 09:32 AM

I hope this is a genuine improvement, not a compromise to help people run lower quality controlers.

lutach 05.27.2008 10:16 AM

Maybe they just went to a different diameter rotor to give it a little more airgap.

phatmonk 05.27.2008 04:07 PM

I have the original Neu 1515/1.5d and the Tekno Neu 1515/1.5d and the original does seem to run cooler.:whistle:


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