They also trade under a bunch of other names too - Avoid anything based in Brooklyn...

Avoid anything based in Brooklyn...now thats a good rule to live by.....lol

Yes - I grew up in Brooklyn for 30 years - I would avoid me too.......:lol:

Except for L&B Spumoni Gardens in Sheepshead Bay - best Sicilian slice you'll have in your life..........

.......slight digression from thread.

Aight, Thanks alot guys! I am NOT ordering from there.

Is http://www.cameraaddict.com/viewproduct.aspx?id=3616673 that place good?

If not can you guys find me a Nikon D80 w/ 18-55mm Lens (Not VR) the cheapest possible?

I would say no:
http://www.complaintsboard.com/compl...com-c8671.html

Best bet to checking out a company is to do a google search with name of the company and word scam: (ie: cameraaddict scam)

I would trust the three places I mentioned earlier in this thread as they are where I bought my D300 and lens from. Adorama and B&H Photo are New York institutions for professional photographers - you may even be able to find a used D80 body on their website at a good price and then pick up the lens separately.

No there Mailing Address IS
325 E. 89th Street
Brooklyn, N.Y. 11236


I WAS SERIOUS ABOUT AVOIDING BROOKLYN - it is all the same con setup

Ok. Adorama has the lowest price but is still high. For a Digital SLR beiginner do you think the Nikon D60 is ok for me? From moving up from a Point and Shoot? Or should I get the D80 from the start?

Before I say anything - no racial slurring intended.

These are all Hessidic (sp?) Jewish shops in a very Orthodox section of Brooklyn. Very old school and shaddy businesses.

When I was growing up in Bklyn my dad and I went out there when I was first getting into photography and I think we were actually had once (I was pretty young at the time) before we figured out the bait 'n' switch they had going on with their newspaper ads.

I would say go with the nicer body and a more simple (ie: less zoom range)lens to start with. Later on you can always upgrade to a nicer lens (ie: larger zoom range or a "Prime" lens - very high quality fixed lens capable of a lower f-stop at the popular focal lengths of 28mm, 35mm, 50mm, 100mm, 200mm, etc) as time goes on.

Check out dpreviews forum:
Nikon D80/D70/D60/D50/D40 Forum
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/forum.asp?forum=1034

There's a few threads in there where people make comparisons of the D40, D60 and D80. Usually these people are experienced amaturs or professionals (some have links to their portfolios that are beyond impressive - and you will see as you browse that not all of the most impressive shots are made with the best camera on the market). Take a few nights and read through these threads - just like you would here to figure out the best battery, esc, or motor for a project. Become an educated consumer and then you will be able to make the best decision for yourself - not us making a decision for you - figure out what features are important to you, what features you think sounds interesting, and what features you would never use. This way you buy a camera that you will grow into and be more experimental with as you learn what it can do - and what it can do that a point-n-shoot could never do.

Also - remember you are moving from point and shoot to SLR - so there are no live previews anymore. You have to look through the viewfinder and frame your shot.

Almost all of these cameras have fully automatic modes to start off with so you can take pictures with ease, but as you learn each feature you will be able to figure out how to say - take a picture and intentionally blur the foreground or background of the shot.

Ok, I am going to TRY and get the Nikon D80 with 18-55mm VR Lens. This is for my B-Day and I think $900 is a bit too much. But I don't know. We'll see. If I can get it I was going to get the Nikon D60. For now what do you guys think? D60 or D80? I am going to take still pics and some action pics but not serious action pics.

Any nikon SLR will be a massive improvement over a compact.

See if you can get even a D70s only 6mp but fantastic

Agreed - Nikon is the cream of the crop.

The XRay of cameras, so to speak. ;)

You will not be disappointed no matter what your decision.

bait and switch is nothing new..here in Phoenix Fry's Electronics is famous for that, anything that they have in thier ad I take with a grain of salt

WOW! That's great to hear. I'll get the Nikon D80 with 18-55mm VR Lens Kit ($900):surprised:

How will the D60 be with everyday photos and some action pictures? Or is the D80 better for everyday photo's and action pictures?