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Pdelcast 08.28.2008 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 206411)
Patrick, to be totally clear, the components to remove are the ones in the pic below correct? This will completely disable the built-in BEC? I would;ve thought that just removing the coil would be enough...

http://scriptasylum.com/forumpics/mmm_bec_mod.jpg

I know I'll have to "inject" external 6v power into the MMM throttle power line so the internal circuits can have their power.

Those are the right parts. :yes:

david lamontagn 08.28.2008 05:28 PM

Quote:

I know I'll have to "inject" external 6v power into the MMM throttle power line so the internal circuits can have their power.
BrianG, Patrick tell me that the internal BEC of the MMM have a 3.3 volts regulator to power the microprocessor of the MMM, so if you powered it with the 6 volts of your Koolflight UBEC, you risk to destroy your MMM:neutral:

BrianG 08.28.2008 05:31 PM

Thanks Patrick!

David: No, I'll be injecting the 6v into the throttle lead back into the MMM, which is normally at ~6v anyway. The additional 3.3v regulator must be further back in the circuit.

Basically, I'll be using an external UBEC without pulling the red wire...

BrianG 08.28.2008 07:43 PM

Success!

Removed the components Patrick suggested and it works like a champ. :smile:

http://scriptasylum.com/forumpics/mmm_bec_mod_done.jpg

The MMM switch is useless now, switching it off did nothing. So I bridged the contacts at the PCB (did this after the pic above).

And now, I can use the Castle Link without any mods, nor do I need batteries hooked up to the ESC. I don't know if this mod makes anything run longer or better, but I feel better with my V1. :smile:

JerryF504 08.28.2008 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 206465)
Success!

Removed the components Patrick suggested and it works like a champ. :smile:

The MMM switch is useless now, switching it off did nothing. So I bridged the contacts at the PCB (did this after the pic above).

And now, I can use the Castle Link without any mods, nor do I need batteries hooked up to the ESC. I don't know if this mod makes anything run longer or better, but I feel better with my V1. :smile:

So now basically it's an opto ESC?

TruckBasher 08.28.2008 08:19 PM

Whoah nice one Brian.....I hope I am good with soldering iron as you are....

lincpimp 08.28.2008 08:23 PM

I see the fan plug went south too:lol:

Arct1k 08.28.2008 08:27 PM

Brian just created the first MMM lite...

suicideneil 08.28.2008 08:35 PM

$10 says it still conks out...


:lol:

BrianG 08.28.2008 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryF504 (Post 206472)
So now basically it's an opto ESC?

Basically yes. Although, in most Opto ESCs, you still need the main battery connection as well.... at least that's how it is in the CC HV ESCs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruckBasher (Post 206477)
Whoah nice one Brian.....I hope I am good with soldering iron as you are....

You'd laugh if you saw the iron I worked with. Since I knew those parts were destined for the trash, I heated one side of the IC while gently prying with a tiny screwdriver. The IC basically fell off when I heated the other side. I just cut the inductor out and then removed the leftover connections.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 206479)
I see the fan plug went south too:lol:

Of course! I wasn't using it anyway and it was added weight for nothing. :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 206481)
Brian just created the first MMM lite...

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 206485)
$10 says it still conks out...

:lol:


Let's see how long it lasts. I got this ESC really cheap, so if it blows, no biggie. It was more or less my experiment ESC. I've never blown an ESC yet, and I hope not to change that, so hopefully things will be good. The only things that can go wrong now is if the external UBEC fails (sending full B voltage to the internals - ouch!), or if the ESC simply decides to do a Schulze on me. :smile:

And neil, I have one thing to say to you: :tongue:

magman 08.28.2008 09:47 PM

Impressive work Brian!

joeling 08.29.2008 11:10 AM

Can I nominate this to be a sticky ? BrianG is a legend. I have just done this mod to my dead V1 & magically, the esc has been resurrected.

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...ing39/cc02.jpg
Before

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...ing39/cc01.jpg
After

Regards,
Joe Ling

TruckBasher 08.29.2008 11:12 AM

I hope this is applicable to V2......just in case mine dies ( I hope not too soon :lol: )...

BrianG 08.29.2008 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeling (Post 206643)
Can I nominate this to be a sticky ? BrianG is a legend. I have just done this mod to my dead V1 & magically, the esc has been resurrected.

Don't forget to remove the switch wires and bridge the solder pads where the switch goes. I did a little more testing with the switch in place and found that when it was off and ran it for a couple of minutes, I'd have odd performance. Something like cogging, but not. With the switch closed, everything runs perfectly. So, you might as well remove it and bridge the pads. Cleans up the wiring too.

joeling 08.29.2008 11:45 AM

Yep, curious me already tried that. Not good to have the switch opened.

Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 206650)
Don't forget to remove the switch wires and bridge the solder pads where the switch goes. I did a little more testing with the switch in place and found that when it was off and ran it for a couple of minutes, I'd have odd performance. Something like cogging, but not. With the switch closed, everything runs perfectly. So, you might as well remove it and bridge the pads. Cleans up the wiring too.

Regards,
Joe Ling


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