which fiegao xl motor would you reccomend?sorry i am new to this and ask alot of questions before spending money i live in northern california and we dont have alot of resources for this.

Disagreed. I never liked MGM programming, and still don't. But this isn't the place for that discussion.

Go with the 9xl for truggy. I tried 8xl before but the 9xl just runs much cooler and has more torque.

Till it catches on fire and has to be shipped off to the Czech Republic.

They may be ok in a monster truck for bashing but they haven't proven themselves very reliable for 1/8th scale off-road buggy racing. Neither has the Novak to tell the truth.

Wait! neither has the MMM so far! :mdr:

At least they are in Kansas. :smile:

I own(ed) both and you are way off on that.

They both have strengths and weaknesses, neither is vastly superior to the other. I do prefer my MMM over the MGM though, as it is easier to program and far smoother. The MGM also still has issues running anything over 4 poles.

The HV pro is yesterday's news in my opinion. They finally add a lipo cut off, two years too late and they have yet to add detailed programming capability and are limited on motor choices and finally don't support over 4s.

The MMM is vastly superior in all ways to the HV pro.

I can't wait until my MMM gets here so I can try my Novak HV4.5 motor on it. And btw, I've tried:

Feigao 540 6s
Feigao 380 9t
Feigao 380 12s
Feigao 8xl
Feigao 9L
Kontronik Twist 47
Tekin Redline 632
Novak SS5800
Novak HV4.5

And the Novak motors have proven to be the winners. They seem to be the most efficient of the bunch and have plenty of power. Many people who disagree are gearing them incorrectly, are not using good enough batteries, or are just going by what they hear.

I'd also say the MMM is a better system overall. My dad had the HV-Maxx in his E-Revo and it wasn't that much more powerful than the stock titans tbh. If you go the MMM route you have a ton of motors to choose from as well, anywhere from the expensive but super efficient Neus to the cheaper Feigaos, whereas with the Novak system you pretty much have to go with their motors, which doesn't leave you many options. Plus the programability and the ratings of the MMM beat out the Novak as well, and for the same price. It is an easy choice for me.

Are you sure about this? I've had one on backorder for a few weeks now and it has not been shipped yet.

and, if your really in LOVE with the novak motors then you can always try to use one with the MMM, but personally you'd be mad!

The HV Pro also requires a UBEC, according to Charlie at Novak.

MMM does not, if Castle got it right this time.

Did you read my post? Mad? The Novak HV ESC makes me mad.

I ordered back in May, and saw others that ordered after me getting their ship notice. So I called them, and apparently PAYPAL had supposedly rejected the payment (not sure why, as there was NO notification to me). Anyway, gave them my CC and its now shipping.

Just to weigh in on the the debate:
The HV system is much faster than the stock titans. If someone states otherwise, they are either exaggerating, or it was completely set up wrong. I run mine against two trucks that have stock titans in them every time I run, and its night and day. I'd also quesiton the UBEC requirement as stated above - there may be a certain situation or two where Novak would strongly recommend one. They DO need an external LVC though if you are running Lipo.

Now, the MMM is theoretically going to be a better system - IF they get it all working correctly. Its looking to me like there are still issues. But having the built in UBEC, 6S capability, and programmable, its got a lot going for it. I REALLY hope that in a couple months I can post again and say that its far and away the best item I have ever purchased.....:intello:

sorry, off topic for a brief moment.

GlassDR, what's your CRT go like with the Ne1700kv & with what battery? ie: runtimes & what pinion are you using?

Back to topic...........

I had a MM & toasted it in my CRT with a 4S 6000 & a Neu 2700 running stock 13t pinion.
Sent the MM back & had it repaired for free. Got it at home with the Tekno 1515/2.5D/1700 where I'm not ATM. :diablo:

Under what circumstances?

My friend and I are both running E-firestorms with the same gearing, but he's running a MM/5700 combo and I'm running a Novak/SS5800 w/sintered rotor. On Orion 3200mah packs we're even, but if we both upgrade to TP 4900mah packs the MM walks away from the Novak like it's standing still. He's got at least 10mph+ on me. I'm guessing it's the ESC. I'll try a MM with the Novak motor and see if it's a closer race.

The HV Pro has a built-in 6V/3A BEC