And someone thought it was a PITA to check the esc programming, not to mention checking every dimension of the motors.

Those rule are for Stock motor arn't they ?

Rule are little less restrictive on mod

The Novak's and other ROAR motors are Wye or star wound, not delta, the latter is illegal. Personally i'd like to see the motor specs opened up, But i agree on stock and super stock, it'd be too confusing to make both a y and a d wound stock, and almost impossible to get exact KV on both

What about this motor?
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXVBW2&P=7
Anyone tried it with a Mamba Max or SideWinder? The Tower specs say "Works with and has connections for either sensor or sensorless speed controls."

ROAR is in Bob Novak's pocket.
 

The rules are absurd. the guy making the motor and escs is the person writing the spec for ROAR. That is ridiculous and we need to complain at our local tracks to get roar to change. This would be like NASCAR rules committee for engines to be from Ford and only allow Ford engines to race.
I dont want to use Novak products. they are outdated and their are many other options out there but Bob threatens ROAR if he doesnt get his way.

That spec is a joke and needs to be changed.

What is the point of restricting the type of connector used for sensor input???????????? :slap:

Both wind types have their uses, but to restrict users and manufacturers to one type is ignorant. If there was a " legal" Delta "stock" motor available my CC sc's would operate it just fine! Don

Maybe you could share your source of information with us: That Bob Novak writes the rules and "threatens" ROAR if he "doesn't get his way."

This is absurd disinformation, and I'm really tired of hearing it spread around R/C forums. If you have evidence to substantiate your assertion, let's hear it.

Didn't GM recently launched a delta wound slotted motor ?

Despite not getting into the racing scene, I have to agree with NovakTwo. I'd like to see some hard evidence myself. If it's true, so be it. But if it's not, let's clarify. It's easy for enough people to repeat rumors that they become "facts".

I think tekin president can confirm that they did try to get approval on there sensorless motor and they failed to pass it...

Has anyone heard? Is there a CC software update for the Sidewinder or MM that will allow either one to operate a 17.5 brushless? Or is CC coming out with a ROAR legal "stock" motor? If I'm pushing a bit, I apologize. OK, now that your motors are going to be legal for MOD-how about a 2200 KV for stock?

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The MM and sidewinder can already operate a 17.5 fine, it the just won't be as smooth from a standstill as sensored.