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TexasSP 09.03.2008 05:11 PM

What will the 15s versions cost (ballpark)? Will you be getting the ones with active cooling as well? Unlike some in the cooler climates I am not against having fans on my controllers. (and yes that is a polite jab at BrianG:wink:)

BrianG 09.03.2008 05:33 PM

Well, I blocked that polite jab and countered with a not-so-polite kick to the genitals. :lol: :tongue:

Generally, voltages that high negate the need for such high currents because most people get high turn motors to go along with it. Unless of course, you want a couple of these for your personal 1:1 vehicle. :smile:

TexasSP 09.03.2008 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 208569)
Well, I blocked that polite jab and countered with a not-so-polite kick to the genitals. :lol: :tongue:

Well while you were at work I sneaked in your house and put fans on all of your ESC's! :whistle:

The problem in Houston, is that with temps going over 100 very often and the humidity, I like to have extra air flow to aid in the cooling process. Just call it an extra insurance policy.

Funny story but true: When I was working with Baldor on putting new motors and control systems on my CNC machines, forced cooling came up. I do not remember the exact figures but with forced cooling on the motor and added cooling to the controller we could get about 25-30% more power from the system. This was all covered under warranty as well. It wasn't necessary in the beginning of the project but was in consideration for some future builds. I wanted all parts on all machines to be as interchangeable as possible so I could keep less spares (save money) and their systems made it work.

BrianG 09.03.2008 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 208582)
Well while you were at work I sneaked in your house and put fans on all of your ESC's! :whistle:

Nope, just checked and they're all still sans fan. Maybe my vehicles rejected the fans when you left. :lol:

Finnster 09.03.2008 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RC-Monster Mike (Post 208558)
I do plan to offer these new controllers - MGM sent me an Eseries 16025 already(but no black box). Placing the order this week - any special requests?

Stock cc_03 cables too?

Fast5sRevo88 09.03.2008 07:34 PM

This is great if you already have one of trueRCs 15s lipos.:intello:

jordan... 09.03.2008 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RC-Monster Mike (Post 208558)
I do plan to offer these new controllers - MGM sent me an Eseries 16025 already(but no black box). Placing the order this week - any special requests?

Mike, i would like a:

28025-3 Z-series, with heatsinks, and preferbly a switch
CC_02 cable
CC_03 cable
USBCOM++

any idea on how much it would cost and how long it would take, would be great if you could get those in for me. Maybe you could ship them and my dogbones together :na: jk

I went through the checkout process on the mgm site and there is an option to have 'doubled power conductors' anyone know what this means, or if its worth it?

bdebde 09.03.2008 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jordan... (Post 208612)
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I went through the checkout process on the mgm site and there is an option to have 'doubled power conductors' anyone know what this means, or if its worth it?

There is two wires for each motor phase as well as 2 + wires and 2 - wires. Not really needed unless you plan on sustained high current use, and also can be a bear to fit 2 wires into connectors.

jordan... 09.03.2008 08:20 PM

bdebde to my rescue again :lol:

thanks for that mate, it was only a 5 euro option so i was guessing it wasn't something too major

Kajman 09.04.2008 02:43 AM

yeah, mgm seem to be great, I will order 160 or 280 I think... No other waterproof option with reverse now.

captain harlock 09.04.2008 07:47 AM

I, too need a hv controller, but someone must convince me that the new MGMs are better than the last ones.

Kajman 09.04.2008 08:32 AM

I'm looking for this answer too. But to be honest, those who have working systems will tel these are the best, those who burned a controller will say it's crap. And how many people use novaks, CC's and so on vs. how many use MGM in the US? I've tried so many ESC, and so many have been told to be very good and they were crap, that one has to be carefoul reading info. Untill now I didn't find any other ESC whith so few people who burned them and could show better one. With reverse, waterproof,up to more than 4S and over 150Ampers.

TexasSP 09.04.2008 09:18 AM

The MGM are not crap. I have owned both the MGM and MMM. For 6s I prefer the MMM because it is smoother, brakes better, and has better programming. However, without the availability of any other 12s and up car/truck controller, MGM is tops. Looks like the guys at MGM are paying attention to the market. I do also know Patrick is working on 8s and 12s controllers as well and they look good so far based on the specs.

The great thing is that this HV market is just warming up and great things or on the horizon for sure.

lutach 09.04.2008 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 208825)
The MGM are not crap. I have owned both the MGM and MMM. For 6s I prefer the MMM because it is smoother, brakes better, and has better programming. However, without the availability of any other 12s and up car/truck controller, MGM is tops. Looks like the guys at MGM are paying attention to the market. I do also know Patrick is working on 8s and 12s controllers as well and they look good so far based on the specs.

The great thing is that this HV market is just warming up and great things or on the horizon for sure.

Just imagine if the US companies had just listened to a certain someone about the HV ESC. I even went as far a begging for the darn thing :lol:. MGM does want an arm and a leg for their ESCs though. If MGM can do a 15S ESC that works with cars, why isn't Castle doing one as well? Patrick said his company is big and is probably the biggest ESC manufacturer when you compare to the popular brands. Castle should just make the 20S a car ESC and have the ultimate ESC on the market. Just to think of an F1 running for an hour + with 20S 2200-3300mAh packs with the proper Kv motor (1521/3Y (525Kv), 1521/2.5Y (630Kv), 1527/2.5Y (500Kv) or 1527/2Y (625Kv), maybe even a custom wound 1515 or 1512) :mdr:.

TRUGGYMAN 09.04.2008 06:06 PM

Just Received One
 
I just received a MGM type E 28025 with 2fans, hydro version & switch.
Why did i choose MGM ?
The 1st MGM i bought in January had a software mistake in voltage
cutoff. They took it back and update it with new software + possibility
to personnaly update it at home, with nice compensations !!
Since march, the N°1 runs ideal: temp maximum 45°c !!!
Never had a broken fan after 42 packs ( 10 to 15 min ). I bought a 2nd one and they both go PERFECT.
A friend bought a MMM, already broken fan, software problems, weldings going bad and now no more life even with smaller motor in a buggy.
I prefer to go away from defaults.
I like the features of the new MGM version and i own a LOSI 8T that has just been converted for neutron :oops:
I made a mistake in the basic programming. Send a mail to MGM and
4 hours later, the answer was there: job done.
Tomorrow, i'll test it HARD:tongue:


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