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magman 11.09.2008 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Electric Dave (Post 230907)
Because that's just not how it's done. We are the minority at the track as a result we have to play by their rules for the time being and for 1/8th electric to really be viable we have to be able to race for 30 mins with a pit taking 10-20 seconds at most.

I understand that it is done this way, but, in not so near future this could be done. For now, the concern would be unplugging the batt. and something happening...not rebinding or something.

Electric Dave 11.09.2008 12:47 PM

At the events I go to, RC-Monster Bash aside, there is so much Nitro Snobbery. Yes, Losi has their production electric and so does Caster and that is wonderful for the hobby but I don't see an E only 1/8th class for next year. At least not here in the North East. Even despite my trucks dominance in the truggy and MT classes at my local track this year, we have ZERO other electric truggies and maybe 3 other E-Revos. Maybe now that Castle has their stuff worked out (hopefully) the path to E-1/8th will be easier but I'm not exactly seeing people change over in droves.

FYI - Losi does have 4s hardcase LiPo's - http://www.losi.com/Products/Feature...rodId=LOSB9864 and that is great, we need more MFGs to make them as well. A standardization on size would be nice too.

rootar 11.09.2008 01:06 PM

the tracks i run at dont make me pit but once and thats for my battery swap in the long mains which takes me 25 seconds (this is equal to the 5 pitstops that the nitros make) so its as fair as it can be and i dont have anyone to change my batteries for me either, i have my gf THROW my car to me on the stand and i swap pack and as my putting the body back on she grabs it from my feet and throws it on the track as i stand up, works pretty good...... i also had a couple buttons sewn on the tips of my velcro straps to keep them from pullng back through the loop (MAJOR time saver) now if my body would come on and off faster id say i could do the stops in under 15 seconds flat.

CrazyCooydog 11.09.2008 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Electric Dave (Post 230936)
At the events I go to, RC-Monster Bash aside, there is so much Nitro Snobbery. Yes, Losi has their production electric and so does Caster and that is wonderful for the hobby but I don't see an E only 1/8th class for next year. At least not here in the North East. Even despite my trucks dominance in the truggy and MT classes at my local track this year, we have ZERO other electric truggies and maybe 3 other E-Revos. Maybe now that Castle has their stuff worked out (hopefully) the path to E-1/8th will be easier but I'm not exactly seeing people change over in droves.

FYI - Losi does have 4s hardcase LiPo's - http://www.losi.com/Products/Feature...rodId=LOSB9864 and that is great, we need more MFGs to make them as well. A standardization on size would be nice too.

cool Í didn't see that pack.
I finished normaly in the top 5 all year.( if I didn't break) I took home first place honours for the seasons club pionts, and third over all in the R/C Pro series. I think I have converted two or three guy's over to Electric.
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Originally Posted by rootar (Post 230946)
the tracks i run at dont make me pit but once and thats for my battery swap in the long mains which takes me 25 seconds (this is equal to the 5 pitstops that the nitros make) so its as fair as it can be and i dont have anyone to change my batteries for me either, i have my gf THROW my car to me on the stand and i swap pack and as my putting the body back on she grabs it from my feet and throws it on the track as i stand up, works pretty good...... i also had a couple buttons sewn on the tips of my velcro straps to keep them from pullng back through the loop (MAJOR time saver) now if my body would come on and off faster id say i could do the stops in under 15 seconds flat.

25 sec swap that's very good. our members aren't too bad. theres a few who respect my decision to run Electric but most won't help much either.
Never thought of the button idea... That's a very good idea.:yes:
I did see a quick pin systen on another fourum I will try and find it and link it

Tempted 11.09.2008 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Electric Dave (Post 230888)
There is some confidence. Build it and I'll be you have major MFGs knocking on your door.

Personally I'm switching trucks next year from my dual pack truggy to a single pack truggy. So I'd want to see a system which can take a single 4s pack of about 5000Mah. Since most truggies and buggies use this type of power and almost all have similar layouts, designing one system may work (or with minor tweaks work) in almost all the standard conversions.

If I built them, it would cost around $75 per system. The only issue is either you would have to ship the chassis to me or do some chassis mods yourself. A buggy, truggy and stadium truck would be the easiest design, the dual battery trucks would be a bit more complicated and run about $100 a system.

Electric Dave 11.09.2008 04:45 PM

The price is reasonable but I don't know you. Do you have any examples of your work? Prototypes? How do we know it will work?

If you think you can make one, I'd highly suggest making a few prototypes and trying to sell them as kits to other folks running the same chassis.

Me personally, I'm getting a Z01-T when it comes out, which I'm now being told has been delayed till Jan so I won't be looking for a solution for some time but for $75, not to have to loose to the nitro guys in a 20-30 min main would be well worth it for me.

Tempted 11.09.2008 06:24 PM

I'll build one as a prototype on my Losi XXT chassis. It has the same battery compartment and the very popular XXXT and most of the other truggies, STs and buggies use pretty much the same system.

CrazyCooydog 11.09.2008 07:20 PM

I'm no engineer but I see this as removing part of the structure of the chassi...
right in the center where it takes most of the abuse.:neutral:

Tempted 11.09.2008 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCooydog (Post 231073)
I'm no engineer but I see this as removing part of the structure of the chassi...
right in the center where it takes most of the abuse.:neutral:

Actually it takes little to no abuse in the center(think of transmission holes on 4wd vehicles, they never fail at the tranny). Most all chassis failures are at the bulks where the front and rear of the vehicle attatch. But that won't matter in the design I'm using. It should be ready middle of next week. The chassis will remain just as rigid as factory and should have a lower COG if I build it right. I knocked all the hard stuff out tonight, all that is left is finding the proper hardware for the job.

CrazyCooydog 11.10.2008 12:18 AM

I guess if you brace from the front and rear bulkheads to the Center diff mount it would be ok. but without this brace I would think that the chassi will bend right at the CD, where most of the weight is located. I say this cuse even in the stock nitro form they use chassi stiffening braces right neer the center of the chassi.
The E-maxx is a totaly different design and uses a chanel type chassi with the skidplate to chassi brace, to help stiffen the over all chassi.

Notice the brace behind the fule tank, and I think there is one under the radio tray too.
http://www.jamminproducts.com/CRimages/cr6lg.jpg

CrazyCooydog 11.10.2008 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCooydog (Post 231184)
I guess if you brace from the front and rear bulkheads to the Center diff mount it would be ok. but without this brace I would think that the chassi will bend right at the CD, where most of the weight is located. I say this cuse even in the stock nitro form they use chassi stiffening braces right neer the center of the chassi.
The E-maxx is a totaly different design and uses a chanel type chassi with the skidplate to chassi brace, to help stiffen the over all chassi.

Notice the brace behind the fule tank, and I think there is one under the radio tray too.
http://www.jamminproducts.com/CRimages/cr6lg.jpg


Opps. I stand corrected,I didn't realize the Losi XXT has a channle typ chassi.
Yes I believe your idea is neer perfect for this aplication.

I was thinking of a truggy type flat chassi.


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