Very true, I think 5s at a minimum... knowing roar they will only make some high priced- cruddy pack (MA) with a hard case for upwards of 200 dollars which makes all these people spend more money...

i wonder what the Motor limits are?

Yeah and Boo. Feels a bit like a short lived golden age is coming to an end. We were all saying ROAR would go and make rules that would ruin the whole thing. Thankfully I'm not a big racer and the tracks I would run at would not follow ROAR most likely. As if Barnstormers would suddenly tell RCM Mike that his 5S truggy wasn't legal.
4S limit is ghey.
What about the motor rules? Hopefully Novak won't get its way with the rules this time around. I could only imagine if the MMM/Neu was not Roar legal.

Novak is on the board, castle and Neu are not. there is no way Novak isn't going to try to make their setup the standard, they would lose big time if ROAR approved the MMM/Neu setup. Castle will make more with the bashers, Neu makes his off planes (we are a small portion of his revenue) Novak makes almost all their money off racers.

On the 4s rule, I'm not for limits on voltage, but i can see the point of 4s limit. They are looking at the torque, The higher the voltage, the higher the torque. 4s geared right on either a novak or any other setup will best mimick the nitro's, there will be less learning curve for those who cross over. I to hope that they don't do hard case setups as well, but with Losi making one, the writing is on the wall

Thank God nothing I do relies on anything ROAR does.

If I did race or decided to race int he future, you can be sure that I wouldn't/won't do it on a track governed by ROAR rules.

Man, 1/8 scale racing hasn't even got off the ground yet and ROAR is already planning it's death.

Well lutach i feel bad for you.... what are your setups 8s at a minimum :lol:

They should allow up to 10S specially if more of this so called hard cased lipos comes out in 3-5S configurations. You can have good 3200-3700mAh 4-5S packs for a very good price and most good cheap chargers can handle those fine. I like my 8S set up and if only ROAR saw the safety of it, but those fools are looking at their pockets and making BS rules. Some of those guys have no clue what they're talking about when it comes to brushless, lipos and now 1/8 scale electric. It's cool, I'll be just waiting to see how many lipos go up in flames, ESC go up in smoke and motors run just too damn hot to touch due to the high AMP demand a 4S set up asks for in these heave vehicles. Good luck to all that follows ROAR with their rules.

Just noticed that the 2009 ROAR rules are up on the ROAR site. It appears that the 1/8 offroad electric rules are included in it. Dont know if anyone has mentioned it yet, but I figured Id mention it in case it hasn't been yet.

http://www.roarracing.com/downloads/..._Rule_Book.pdf

Is there only going to be a buggy class?

R.O.A.R. = Ruining Offroad w/ Audacious Rules

Why not require each racer to have a battery case to hold lipo's and that's it?? Soft or hard-cased wouldn't matter. 4s? Bah! Whatever voltage ya want so long as you can control your car and finish the race without thermaling or burning a motor.

We can all agree that a proper race set-up requires thought with regards to gearing, voltage and motor kv. That alone will seperate the serious racers from the pretenders.

The battery pack shall not display rapid disassembly

Are they talking about it exploding?

8.3.2.6.2 The fully charged battery pack shall be dropped from a height of 5 feet to a flat
concrete floor. The battery pack shall land flat on the floor during the drop.

ROAR= retards overthinking anything r/c

yeah i wanna see a friggin lipo dropped 5 foot on concrete hard case or not!

Yeah, I can really see myself dropping $200.00 batteries on the floor to satisfy ROAR.:oops: Has anyone at ROAR actually read any lipo care procedures :rules:, or do they just pull this stuff out of their asses? :surprised:

"Open submission for 2S lipo batteries will expire on December 31, 2008. Any 2S pack (stick or saddle) requiring approval after this date will be tested and/or added to the approved product list based on the biannual schedule as per rule 8.3.2.6.1"

So I'm assuming the use of two 2s roar approved hardcase packs will be legal then... This will be good for those who already own them.

I agree with the whole battery issue. They should have allowed higher voltages. I really do hope they make an unlimited class in the near future.

I don't see any rules for 1/8th Truggies so it seems buggies only for now.

Maybe when the Truggies are added we'll see a 6S Lipo limit :wink: