I always find it funny how everyone thinks Traxxas is so stuck to Novak. The truth is the only ESC ever made by Novak for Traxxas was the original EVX which was serviced and warrantied by Traxxas. For some reason though everyone thinks Traxxas has a deep relationship with Novak.

I remember specifically people swearing and flaming me when I suggested Traxxas would not use Novak for their brushless endeavor's but low and behold, they don't.

Novak has several things against them in my opinion which all derive from arrogance:

1. The technology they offer is typically old and improvements are slow to come out
2. Novak's prices are too high on the products they offer
3. Novak's CS is no where near the level they used to have
4. Novak refuses to follow the market and have good forward looking planning for what they offer
5. Novak has failed to use it's enormous influence on ROAR to forsee and improve the market, it's a very short sited business strategy setup only to capitalize on today with no consideration of tomorrow.

Racing is a small percentage of the hobby world and even racer's will only sit around and be held back so long. Bashing and sport drive's the RC market today.

I kinda agree with this. As much as I love my MMM/TeknoNeu the Novak HV motors aren't that horrible. The smaller rotor and less torque is a little easier to control on dirt. If it came down to being limited to 4s for racing I would def consider one of their motors, run it without the sensor with my MMM. The HV esc on the other hand is the weak link!

I think they made those HVs set that way so the can mandate a limit on the batteries. Like Texas SP said, they didn't have any forward thought about how they can adapt their products for tomorrow's technology. Then again, what's the percentage of people racing compared to the bashers who just want crazy speeds?

sorry rootar, If i had seen it, I'd have posted there over creating a thread

Was looking back and although I have never used a quark, I always have heard good things about their power delivery. However I think some of the advantages that can be brought via the Novak HV can also be had via the MMM/MM without the disadvantages of the Novak system. With the ability to change so many parameters of the MMM in regards to start up, timing, braking percentages, throttle curve, and braking curbve, I think it is fairly easy to come up with an optimum setting for each situation. I can personally testify to the smooth startup of the CC firmware in the new MMM and MM and find it every bit as smooth as any of the Novak's I tried.

Keep in mind I am not dogging you for using the Novak, I am only criticising what I believe are faults of Novak as a corporation. I think eveyrone should use what ever suits them best and/or they like the best.

I have used a Quark 33 Pro car, had it in my Mini LST. Was an awseome ESC.

My MMM's are smooth as silk and I love it. Im personally not a fan of novak, there was a BAD run of rooster crawler ESCs about a year ago, extreme glitching and stuff. They would fix it for 40 bucks, on top of the 90 you already spent to buy it.

Needless to say I sold it and ran my Quark33 in the Crawler with a brushless outrunner.

Ill never buy a novak product again, ever.

Not to mention ive seen a bunch of them smoke up in 1/8 buggies.

No worries, Everyone has an opinion, I just never had the problems with my novak that everyone else has had. I also agree that the novak wasted the opportunity, to be on the forefront. With all they brought to brushed racing, you'd think they should be the leader of the brushless movement. However, at this time, they are often last looked at

Unless you race ROAR!:whistle: