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Semi Pro 06.21.2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 297745)
This made me laugh, just thought you guys would like to know that.

Just wondering if you can flip the plastic spur over and have it sit closer to the diff cup? I know it has a metal reinforcement plate, does that go between the diff cup and the spur, or outside the spur?

the plate goes on the diff cup first then the gear goes over it, the op may have put it together wrong

its a nice set up because you dont have to open the diff to change the gear, and on a side note they seem to last as long as kyosho nylon gears, as long as you mesh them right they will last years

Mentat 06.21.2009 09:45 PM

OH and this kit doesnt come with mounting screws for your motor either

What's_nitro? 06.21.2009 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mentat (Post 297728)
Look here are some pics... Dude dont be so rude next time. you are quick to insult someone.

Ok, NOW I see it. Yes, I am quick to insult anybody if they make rash judgements without evidence to back them up. If you come out of the gate with the attitude you had in your original post then I don't see why my reply was insulting to you. That attitude does not fly very far here, particularly not with me. I'm actually surprised noone else said anything. You completely bashed a product made by a very reputable company without any proof except for some vague indication that some others had the same problem. Only after I questioned you (2 hours later) did you actually put up some pictures to reinforce your claim.

My point is that if you had posted the pictures initially, (not 2 hours later) that would have avoided this argument entirely. I would have seen the problem and your tone would have been justified.

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Originally Posted by Mentat (Post 297728)
PERIOD

Have a nice day.

Mentat 06.21.2009 10:21 PM

lick me and love it!

TexasSP 06.21.2009 11:16 PM

Linc, you need to stop being so rough at night with What's_nitro?.....

It puts him in such a foul mood the next day! :lol:

lincpimp 06.22.2009 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mentat (Post 297797)
lick me and love it!

Wow, I am guessing we have another female forum member? I swear I heard that line in a skinemax flick recently...

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 297810)
Linc, you need to stop being so rough at night with What's_nitro?.....

It puts him in such a foul mood the next day! :lol:

Not my fault he clenches the entire time.

himalaya 06.22.2009 06:02 AM

I have the same problem. I replaced the steel 45T spur with a plastic to have a quiter enjoyment. I spent 2 hours trying to get the center diff spin freely, after countless assemble and disassemble the spur was still touching something. I finally figure it was the chassis! dremeled a tiny bit(0.1mm depth I guess) of chassis off right under the spur, the problem goes away. and like Mentat's picture shows, the spur was so close to the mount that I can't insert a piece of paper into the gap.

Now my center diff spins freely, but new problem comes up. This time it's the pinion's turn to touch the mount. I have to pull the pinion 1mm farther away from the motor to let it run free. WTF do they design it this way. I coundn't use the plastic spur's full teeth width, only 4/5 width is contacting the pinion.

The fact is, Losi designed the plastic spur so wide that it almost get conflict with the mount, but that extra width can NOT touch the pinion, it does not work together with the pinion, which is what it was designed so wide for. Is that logical ?

Yesterday I managed to run my 8ight 2.0 E conv, finally. It did run great but I just can't say it was a perfect design.

littlejohn 06.22.2009 08:09 AM

I must be plain lucky, but I had the 45T metal spur but got the plastic one for a quieter ride and have had zero probs... no rubbing or anything..

DwightSchrute 06.22.2009 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by himalaya (Post 297855)
I have the same problem. I replaced the steel 45T spur with a plastic to have a quiter enjoyment. I spent 2 hours trying to get the center diff spin freely, after countless assemble and disassemble the spur was still touching something. I finally figure it was the chassis! dremeled a tiny bit(0.1mm depth I guess) of chassis off right under the spur, the problem goes away. and like Mentat's picture shows, the spur was so close to the mount that I can't insert a piece of paper into the gap.

Now my center diff spins freely, but new problem comes up. This time it's the pinion's turn to touch the mount. I have to pull the pinion 1mm farther away from the motor to let it run free. WTF do they design it this way. I coundn't use the plastic spur's full teeth width, only 4/5 width is contacting the pinion.

The fact is, Losi designed the plastic spur so wide that it almost get conflict with the mount, but that extra width can NOT touch the pinion, it does not work together with the pinion, which is what it was designed so wide for. Is that logical ?

Yesterday I managed to run my 8ight 2.0 E conv, finally. It did run great but I just can't say it was a perfect design.


after reading your post, i just went and looked at a couple of my plastic spurs.....they don't all seem to be exactly the same width. I wonder why this is?

Still, if you get the RCM mount, you'll have zero issues with rubbing on the chassis as it raises the center diff a few mm and i don't get any rubbing on the mount from the spur either. I run 45T with no problems at all. Not only that, it's an awsome mount that allows you to gear as high or low as you want. that's one thing that no other 8ight conversion seems to offer right now.

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...t/HPIM6004.jpg

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...t/HPIM5841.jpg

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...t/HPIM5831.jpg

the wheel freespin i get is crazy...no binding at all. RCM mounts rule!

Edumakated 06.22.2009 11:33 AM

The plastic spur definitely does not fit. It is too wide and the only way to get it to fit is to shim it away from the mount or sand it down.

However, if you set your mesh correctly, the metal 45 tooth losi spur works GREAT. It is nearly as quiet as the plastic. I have found that the metal to metal is loud if you set your mesh too tight, but just fine if you loosen it a bit.

You also have to dremel out the plastic hole covering a little bit as the spur may rub.

Other than that, the Losi kit is pretty nice. I like it in my 8t 2.0. Very simple to install and pretty solid.

Mentat 06.22.2009 04:59 PM

Where did u get the metal diff cup?


Quote:

Originally Posted by DwightSchrute (Post 297876)
after reading your post, i just went and looked at a couple of my plastic spurs.....they don't all seem to be exactly the same width. I wonder why this is?

Still, if you get the RCM mount, you'll have zero issues with rubbing on the chassis as it raises the center diff a few mm and i don't get any rubbing on the mount from the spur either. I run 45T with no problems at all. Not only that, it's an awsome mount that allows you to gear as high or low as you want. that's one thing that no other 8ight conversion seems to offer right now.

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...t/HPIM6004.jpg

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...t/HPIM5841.jpg

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...t/HPIM5831.jpg

the wheel freespin i get is crazy...no binding at all. RCM mounts rule!


Semi Pro 06.22.2009 05:55 PM

i guess im lucky because mine is perfect, i wonder if they changed something?

DwightSchrute 06.22.2009 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mentat (Post 298036)
Where did u get the metal diff cup?

here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=390015827060

i have to use them because i run my center diff almost locked....basically with putty in it.

when you have that much pressure in there, geared the way i do, i blew a dime sized hole in the stock one. these are incredibly strong. I got one for all 4 of my 8ights. a good investment imo.

Mentat 06.22.2009 06:18 PM

I am running 50,000 weight in my 8ight-t what do you think about that? that be ok? not sure what weight to run being brushless


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Originally Posted by DwightSchrute (Post 298055)
here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=390015827060

i have to use them because i run my center diff almost locked....basically with putty in it.

when you have that much pressure in there, geared the way i do, i blew a dime sized hole in the stock one. these are incredibly strong. I got one for all 4 of my 8ights. a good investment imo.


lincpimp 06.22.2009 06:21 PM

I run those cups in the front and rear diffs of my 6s powered lst. I have not had issues with them. Nova rc makes a pretty good product.


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