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Pdelcast 06.26.2009 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by lutach (Post 299216)
That is sometimes common due to everyone's marketing scheme. The moment you see a 40C pack from one guy, you'll see 40C the next day from the other. Then one will claim 40C+ so the other will come in a 48C or 50C or 60C and it'll keep going that way. Same thing goes for ESCs, one company will claim 540A and then here comes one that claims 780A and a lot of people out there really falls for it lol.

That's why we try to stay out of the "rating game." If we used the same ratings as another company (who shall remain nameless) the Mamba Monster would be a 2200A controller. :rofl:

Arct1k 06.26.2009 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 299219)
the Mamba Monster... is(sic) a 2200A controller.

Spread the word - CEO of CC says MM is a 2200A Controller ;)

lutach 06.27.2009 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 299219)
That's why we try to stay out of the "rating game." If we used the same ratings as another company (who shall remain nameless) the Mamba Monster would be a 2200A controller. :rofl:

Yes and you get my outmost respect Patrick. I hate to bring up one of your competitors, but I also respect Tekin.

Andrew32 06.27.2009 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lutach (Post 299216)
That is sometimes common due to everyone's marketing scheme. The moment you see a 40C pack from one guy, you'll see 40C the next day from the other. Then one will claim 40C+ so the other will come in a 48C or 50C or 60C and it'll keep going that way. Same thing goes for ESCs, one company will claim 540A and then here comes one that claims 780A and a lot of people out there really falls for it lol.

just curious, i know most industrial equipment under rate all their stuff to retain a specific FOS (factor of safety)......is there no standard?


example. if a company tests a ESC at 400A, then they rate if for 200A...

just a tohught, i think the industry needs a standard

lutach 06.27.2009 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew32 (Post 299602)
just curious, i know most industrial equipment under rate all their stuff to retain a specific FOS (factor of safety)......is there no standard?


example. if a company tests a ESC at 400A, then they rate if for 200A...

just a tohught, i think the industry needs a standard

That's what I've been trying to get at, but some people will still fall for the over rated product. People fail to understand simple electronics. One rule that I like to go by is: What ever the continuous rate of a ESC is, use it as the max cont. burst for hard accelerations only. A few smart ones knows best that there's no bloody way any small ESC can deliver anywhere near 200A on a continuous bases. With that said, Castle Creations, Tekin and a few of others will not over rate their ESC like many do. So yes, the hobby industry does need a standard to be set, but we also need the manufacturers to come clean as well.

scarletboa 06.29.2009 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 299219)
That's why we try to stay out of the "rating game." If we used the same ratings as another company (who shall remain nameless) the Mamba Monster would be a 2200A controller. :rofl:


are you talking about hobbwing and their 150a esc with a claim of 1080a burst? i heard that the 2 ESCs are not all that different. they supposedly use the same mosfets.

nitrostarter 06.29.2009 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lutach (Post 299617)
That's what I've been trying to get at, but some people will still fall for the over rated product. People fail to understand simple electronics. One rule that I like to go by is: What ever the continuous rate of a ESC is, use it as the max cont. burst for hard accelerations only. A few smart ones knows best that there's no bloody way any small ESC can deliver anywhere near 200A on a continuous bases. With that said, Castle Creations, Tekin and a few of others will not over rate their ESC like many do. So yes, the hobby industry does need a standard to be set, but we also need the manufacturers to come clean as well.


There should be some standard and I think the mfg's you mentioned do follow this. However the problem comes in with these knock-off companies that make something that works ok and then bogus numbers fly. When I was boating heavily, their was a claim on a Hobbycity esc of 2-6s capable, but when questioned, they stated the ESC shouldn't be used on more than 4s applications....


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