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Arct1k 08.06.2009 09:37 AM

Ahh maybe nows a good time to unload my spares :)

BrianG 08.06.2009 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 310655)
For an 80mm you could have just used mike's XL heatsink...

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTBikerTim (Post 310681)
problem is they are out of stock and have been for ages.

Exactly! Don't you think that was my first choice?

Arct1k 08.06.2009 10:11 AM

Brian - sometimes you get "creative" just because - FYI bit small but the S is in stock...

I'll check tonight but think I have a spare really rare, highly sought after XL at home that I could sell.

zeropointbug 08.06.2009 01:31 PM

Brian, I used CA glue to glue the endbell back on a 540C 7XL motor because the the threads were stripped after the cover got knocked off after a crash.

Anyways, I tried to turn the endbell off, it doesn't budge. :smile:

BrianG 08.06.2009 01:56 PM

Well, for threaded endcaps, that might be fine, but the Medusas are just press fitted.

asheck 08.06.2009 04:44 PM

I had used little screws for my endbell on my 36-60-2000 in my E-revo. Unfortunately eventually one did break out the motor can. I probably could have had the hole a little further away from the edge. But it was caused from a 20 foot, double backflip rear dive . Sane people should be alright. I just electrical taped it after that, the 1 screw and tape held out.

BrianG 09.07.2009 01:50 PM

Just an update: I found an extra tiny screw so I added it to bring the total to 3 screws. And when I took it apart, I found the red locktite didn't hold too well (so much for locktite tech support). So, I used JBweld after all.

And for the ultimate test, I bashed the heck out of the XT8 and everything held up. Play was stopped by an obliterated rear diff case (the part that attaches to the chassis, shocktower, etc).

J57ltr 09.07.2009 02:34 PM

I didn't think that red would hold that's not its purpose. The green sleeve retaining compound will hold. It's still holding up on my motor. They also recommend using the primer before using most of their products. I haven't used it before except when I worked for Western Atlas where it was part of the procedure.

Using Loctite is just like anything else it has to be used properly if the surfaces are not completely clean and free anything but the substrate you are attaching it won't bond. If there is any oil at all it won’t set. Anodizing needs to be removed and both surfaces roughed up for it to work, same with JB weld although I have yet to find anything that it is good for. At least it never works where I need it to.


Jeff

BrianG 09.07.2009 02:38 PM

When I applied the JBWeld, I did take off all the anodizing and roughed it up with a dremel sanding wheel. So, that coupled with the screws should hold.

Jabe 09.07.2009 02:56 PM

When you opened it up, did you notice that it didnt have any shimms?

J57ltr 09.07.2009 03:10 PM

It will probably hold on the end bell, but if it let go on the front it might hold for a little while. When I got my Faegiao the end bell was already popping off. My biggest problem was that the front one came off in a nasty crash. After that was when I decided to use screws to hold it in place. After checking it while bashing I noticed the motor was "loose" so I took it back apart and used a dremel with the wire wheel to clean it then reattached everything and added the green sleeve retaining compound. (there are several Green compounds most are low strength threadlockers). Let us know how it stands up.

Jeff

medusa'd maxx 09.08.2009 09:38 AM

I use red loctite on my pinions a little heat from a soldering iron on the shaft and they pop right off - no good for the end bell. Can someone tell us aussies
what this JB Weld glue is

Jabe 09.08.2009 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by medusa'd maxx (Post 319092)
I use red loctite on my pinions a little heat from a soldering iron on the shaft and they pop right off - no good for the end bell. Can someone tell us aussies
what this JB Weld glue is

Well you aussies have Google?:lol:
Its one of those two component glues.

I will stick with Loctite 603, i have stuff that is meant to secure bearings, that should be realy nasty stuff and should hold...

J57ltr 09.08.2009 09:36 PM

JB weld is a 2 part epoxy and is one of the most widely known here in the US. There are tons of different 2 part epoxies around here. I think there are a lot better ones out there but some are just worthless. I have had good luck with some of the stick epoxies that you kneed together but it wouldn't be right for this application.

603 is a good, there are really a ton of different compounds that will fit this application there are ones for bearings (like the 603) and ones for loose or worn out bearings (really) I think the tolerence on that was .025" (.5mm). You can find this stuff at industrial bearing suppliers, but look up what you want first, because most might not have it in stock and they will try to sell you "something close".

Jeff

Mozzy 09.10.2009 11:26 AM

Wow, I haven't been on here for ages! Helps to have a PC that works too. :lol:

Here's my Medusa.
Will I have trouble with the endbell separating from the can?
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...CMHeatsink.jpg


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