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It's hard to find a better shock than the LST shock, in either plastic or Alum.
Hot Racing does have one product worth a crap and It's the Delrin Jet Vent pistons for the LST shocks. They help dramactically in how the shock works. +1 on the RC Raven Springs if your set up is heavy |
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Horizon = POOP. Around here HPI has much better parts support!
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Instead of using the FLM LST shock mounts, you can just use the standard Losi shock mounts - i know for a fact they work fine on both my savage flux and savage 21.
I have the FLM mounts on the FLM chassis, but, with all those mounting holes, i can only manage to mount them in one position (can you believe that?!?!) without the shock rubbing on the chassis (i have the chassis spacers installed) I drilled out the stock pistons slightly larger and used 35wt oil, and they're great =) Whatever you do, DO NOT get the integy piggy backs... they are great except for the shafts and lower mounts - if only they used the same shaft size as losi did, then they would be awesome with the TiNi shafts and standard losi lower mounts (lower mounts = where the shock attaches to the lower arm, i forget the name) |
So I'm getting a little confused as to what is needed to mount these. One person made a comment about FLM Losi Shock mounts, another FLM Shock Towers.
I either need to buy the FLM SAVAGE shock tower http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...LM43000&cat=31and this kit http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...lm30000&cat=31. Looks to be about 80 bucks in parts - I think I will try the stock losi parts first. I looked on A-main, and the Losi site, and wasn't able to find a complete Losi LST shock mount kit. I did find a kit of nuts, a kit of washers, a kit of plastic parts, and a kit of screws. |
There are the FLM LST mounts for the FLM Savage towers. You need both. I have this.
There is another kit for use w/ plastic oem towers I haven't seen where you can use just stock parts to convert. Don't see where that would be very strong, but who knows. The losi shock parts kit tends to come w. all sorts of bits, pistons, shock ends, clips, etc. |
Here's how I did it cheap:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/IMG_7095.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/IMG_7102.jpg At the top, it's one of the standard LST upper shock bushings with a long 3mm screw through the bushing and the tower. I found the 3mm screws bent easily so I upped it to 4mm, by drilling out the shock tower and bushing. The lower is a simple bracket from 1/4" polycarbonate (Lexan) that spaces out the shock and distributes some of the load to the other side of the arm. Those are Savage 25 arms, BTW. |
JThiessen - The shock towers i have on my savage are different to those... I'm not sure if Mike has the wrong picture there, or if FLM have changed the design on them...
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...gybacks/05.jpg On the flux and S21, I have my LST shocks mounted the same as Metal Man at the upper position, although the bottom is different - i used 2x FLM chassis spacers and a really long screw... i have the shock on the outside, followed by a spacer, followed by the susp. arm, then another spacer, and then the other side of the susp. arm (dunno if that makes sense - will need pics probably) I bent the standard shafts on a couple extra large jumps and replaced them with the tini shafts, so it holds up well =) |
I'm still not sure which say I'm going on mine, but I did find another kit by New Era: http://www.neweramodels.com/item.cgi?part_id=3184
Havent heard much about them. One thing I noticed while reading other forums is that the rear tie rod may need to be relocated to allow for full suspension travel (looks like the new era kit takes care of this). Does the FLM tower/mounts address this? If it is, I wonder if those optional rear arms for the Savage would eliminate that problem since they get rid of the tierod in the rear. http://www.hpiracing.com/products/en/85066/ on edit - I looked back at finnsters pic of his, and he has the shock mounted on the front side of the arm - if you look at the pic of the flux the shocks are mounted in the rear. http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/ki...geFlux_019.jpg |
mine are in front too...
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...ompleted01.jpg I have them in front of the rear arms on the flux also, but on any version, if you had the one piece rear hubs you could easily mount the shocks to the rear of the rear arms - I only have my rear shocks mounted in front of the rear arm due to the turnbuckle :) |
This pic is a bit older, but shows I also have mine in front of the rear arms:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...e/IMG_8075.jpg Also got the Integy rear hubs to get rid of that shitty turnbuckle setup. Going the Integy route actually weighs only half of the components it replaces. |
Hadn't seen that new era kit, but seems a bit pricey, but you have to use older style arms? Seems for not that much more you can just get the FLM kit and have a solid tower as well, unless you really want to keep the plastic one.
Yeah, the shocks have to go on front due to toe link. I'd prefer to mount other way as the plastic for the shock mount on the arm is a bit thinner in the F for some reason, but it works either way. I intend on making mine 4WS, else I would get a solid C-hub from integy or HPI. The stock turnbuckles (esp the ballends) suck. |
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I can't actually see anything in your pic as that Sav is too shiny!! I hurts my eyes to look at it! :) How much does that thing weigh? Very nice truck, motor too. What MGM is that? I have a 9032 in mine. |
It's about 7.5kg rtr with 18 nimh cells, but haven't weighed it with the 4s packs I've been running in it lately... It's the 16025 MGM and 2230/11t, but the lehner has been put aside for a 1512 on 4s, as I can't afford the 6s packs I want right now, and am kinda saving for a truggy and bunch of other stuff hehehe :) Sorry to stray :)
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BTW, I got my shocks last night on ebay - ended up being 50 bucks for all 4. Got the blue threaded style. Now I gotta find some place besides Tower that carries the Integy hubs (I need them before next Friday as I am taking off for our annual beach camping trip). I checked A-Main, but no luck there....any suggestions? |
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