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zeropointbug 10.06.2009 10:35 PM

6s lipo

What's_nitro? 10.06.2009 10:57 PM

Hmmm... 10 slots, 12 poles- is it me or does that make 60 "ticks" per revolution.... :mdr:

MetalMan 10.07.2009 12:32 AM

So a top RPM of ~10,000. And if using truggy/MT tires it would require a reduction of about 4:1 to achieve ~45mph.

Will there be only one for the entire vehicle (assuming 4 wheels)?

zeropointbug 10.07.2009 01:28 AM

It would make 30 commutations per revolution. I am just wondering what the torque is on this thing, and what the max rpm is, then I can get a relative measure to how powerful it will be. I wish they had a peak power rating for it as well, as it would be more useful than continuous power rating.

Metalman, about your question about why not "HK" series, the Kv. for the non-HK model was the ideal number (460 kv.) for 6s lipo.

Yes, this will be for a truggy platform, as it would be too fast for a Revo drivetrain (2.8:1 diffs)

MetalMan 10.07.2009 01:34 AM

You can get the Scorpion Calc here:
http://www.scorpionsystem.com/downloads/
(2nd item on the list)

So it will use truggy diffs. Will the outrunner's output shaft be a part of the diff input shaft?

zeropointbug 10.07.2009 02:05 AM

Thanks for the link Metalman, I DL'ed it, but it doesn't really do us surface guys any good as it is based on max rpm loads, and not full rpm range. It states a peak 90% efficiency which is nice.

About your question, I can't tell. :smile: You may as well stop asking, no one will ever guess it. :wink:

zeropointbug 10.07.2009 02:14 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Here is a spec sheet, doesn't tell much useful, but cool to look at non the less.

lutach 10.07.2009 09:46 AM

Depending on how well the outrunner is built, they can go as high as the ESC can run it. I've heard of outrunner going over 30K RPMs. Some have been rewound to make sick amounts of power and used even to set a 400MPH+ plane record.

What's_nitro? 10.07.2009 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 325620)
Depending on how well the outrunner is built, they can go as high as the ESC can run it. I've heard of outrunner going over 30K RPMs. Some have been rewound to make sick amounts of power and used even to set a 400MPH+ plane record.

:surprised: Linky???

lutach 10.07.2009 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What's_nitro? (Post 325645)
:surprised: Linky???

Enjoy the wonderful work of Powercroco:

http://www.powercroco.de/scorpion.html
http://www.powercroco.de/crocospeed.html
http://www.powercroco.de/extremmotoren.html

A modified Scorpion motor was used to set the speed record I mentioned, but I can't seem to find the exact link in the site. It was mentioned in RCGroups.

Edit: It's actually over 400Km/h+. I'm going through the links now and man, it's always awesome.

zeropointbug 10.07.2009 02:20 PM

Wow, that guy has some serious motor winding skills. It would be nice if he had some vids... it seems like he just builds them and takes pics and no action, lol. :neutral:

I really like the slotless outrunner he made, very cool.

lutach 10.07.2009 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeropointbug (Post 325661)
Wow, that guy has some serious motor winding skills. It would be nice if he had some vids... it seems like he just builds them and takes pics and no action, lol. :neutral:

I really like the slotless outrunner he made, very cool.

He has amazing skills. It would be nice to see some of the outrunner brushless gurus of RCGroups to come here and give some input.

So, what are you cooking up? Did you get abducted by some form of super intelligent creature and got some technology from them? So far I've only seen 2 UFOs, not little gray or gree guys, but just 2 UFOs.

What's_nitro? 10.07.2009 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeropointbug (Post 325661)
I really like the slotless outrunner he made, very cool.

I second that. :yes:

http://www.powercroco.de/slotless_outrunner.html

zeropointbug 10.07.2009 04:38 PM

I think I might have to just spill the beans, because I am still trying to work out a few design issues in my head before I can even CAD it. The issues are mainly due to not knowing exactly how the outrunner in question is put together and a couple of 'assembly' unknowns.

I'll be on later to post a a simple drawing of it, and explain how it work... we may as well do this together! :mdr:

What's_nitro? 10.07.2009 04:48 PM

I'll be glad to help!


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