This the one I'm looking for? What makes these pinions so special vs hardened steel versions from Castle Creations, Team Novak, Integy and Robinson Racing?

http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...mpinion&cat=40

the hardening process. Forget the exacts but Mike had a specific list of rules for the machinist to harden them

Integy pinions like anything else of their's, garbage.

Castles, The aluminum ones that come w/the M.M.M. are obvisously expendible. I haven't tried one of their Hardened Ones yet.

Novaks are pretty good but RCM pinons seem to be beefier,more material, broader teeth.( a good second choice )

Robinsons, again less material than RCM but are of good qaulity but not as hard. The teeth will feather over in time and wear faster.

I have some RCM pinions that have hundreds of runs and are still in great shape. Definitely show wear but still running strong !

Everyones opinions are different but these are my experiences.

Well, seems like a 'no-brainer' so far ;)

EDIT : btw, you need these right : 5mm bore, mod1 pinion, atleast that's what I run. The once you linked are different.

yeah, you linked to 32 pitch and need mod1

Ah ok, thats what I needed to know.

Allright ya convinced me, i'll give RC monsters pinions a go.

:yipi:

Hands down RCM pinions are the best! I have ordered a RRP pinion when I was ina pinch and Mike was out and it did well but was a bit narrower. I also received a test batch of pinions from Novak when they where still in there prototype stage when they first released their 5mm rotors for the HV line up. They told me that they weren't as hard as the production ones would be but wanted feedback. Regardless of all that they have held up with multiple runs on them in a CRT.5, G2R revo with mod1 conversion, and RC8T.

I rate them 1-RCM 2-Novak 3-RRP

How about hot bodies steel pinions.? They make a 26 tooth mod 1 also. They also have been lighten up as much as possible without hurting strength.

Thats what I had on the truck already

I found for 5mm shaft the HPI Flux pinion was very soft and wore fast
The Kershaw Designs pinions fit well, but were quite noisy as are the Novak Pinions
My one try with RCM pinions was on a Turnigy 36-56-2600 motor in an E-Savage, the pinion simply wouldn't fit on the 5mm shaft.

I am running the Robinson Racing pinions now on the Savage Flux, works well, and quieter than the stocker.

For the Slash I like the Losi 48 pitch pinions but I change out the grub screw as the ones they come with are rubbish.

OK, to the best of my memory on the rcm pinions.

The earliest ones were actual clutchbells turned down and pressed onto machined hubs.

Next he got RRP to make them, to a certain spec (can't remember if it was rrp spec, but I think it was) so eventually rrp started reselling them as their own.

Now he has another firm make them, to his spec. The material he uses is better than the rrp (next best from rcm) and the heat treatment is also better. And the price is right in line, and we all know Mike's service is top notch.

From my experience I have noticed much more wear on the rrp pinions that I run compared to the rcm. Got the rrp pinions at a lhs closeout for a few bucks each (would not have paid full price, that is for sure). I will gladly pay what Mike asks for his pinions, just a better product than what elese is available.

Given your use of a steel spur FB, the pinion will wear more than someone using a plastic spur. Plus the spur has about 2.1 times the number of teeth, so the pinion will see 2.1 times the number of wear per tooth compared to the spur. So it has to be considerably harder than the spur if both are to wear at the same rate.

My best advise to you would be to replace the spur and get a rcm pinion. Using an old spur with a new pinion is not optimum, as the wear on the spur (even though it is less) matches with the wear on the pinion. Yeah it costs 25 bucks for the spur and another 15 or so for the pinion, but it is money well spent, and you can always keep the old spur as a spare. Or sell it to the idiots over at savage central... They will not be able to hear the noise over the sound of their 28c 3200 mah lipos exploding under the strain...

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Have you read the threads over there? From what I have read they would give the traxxas noobs a run for their money (which has already been spent on Maxamps advertising campaign). At least in the elctric section, I have no idea if these guys can tune a nitro motor or not. I would not trust half of them to adjust the tire pressure on a wheelbarrow.