I've searched for a pic of the twisted 6 spyder cup with no luck before. It has been posted on ue forum quite some time ago.

Nevermind you guy's, I swear by my 8 spyder's. They never failed me before and am sure they won't fail me in the future. To each his own.

so, what if the HB's are cheaper? stronger and cheaper..

I do see a 7XL destroying the internalls.. with a centerdiff, it's a whole different thing.!

Alum diff cup?

Beside's, I allready got them, not going to swap diff's for a "more helicoil cut" ring gear or w/e lol while still use cheap molded spyder gear's. That's nut's. Beside that, I need to buy some flm bulk's too, so that make's them actually more expensive and rule out the diff's if you allready got alum bulk's. Unless you like to buy part's twice that is.

If I can't break the 8 spyder's why I need even stronger diff's.

Ok i'm done ranting. Like I said before, to each his own.

I wasn't replying to you Sicco.. check one post back, and then my reply. It will make more sence then..

i was talking about 6 spiders, not about your 8's.. LOL

So your saying that the hardened chrome plated steel pin's inside the lightning diff's make them stronger? Since basicly both diff cases are the same?

Or do the lightning diff's use better cheap molded spyder gear's?

I have trashed one output gear before, but i was because the shifting servo wasnt getting the power it needed to shift and I goose it between shifts and it trash the high speed gear. Oher than that no problems so far, diffs are strong as ever too.

No, that's not it.
i said the crosspins are stronger...

And for that, the spidergears won't eat their way thru the pins, and in the cup. and those metal chips coming from the shafts, will ruin the gears faster too. It doesn't changes the strength of the cup though.

here, i used little metal square parts on the end of the pins to make the diffs stronger. here, observe this picture; (savage diff)


http://rc.stuurmijmail.nl/Savage/slides/PerfectDiff.JPG

I'm surprised if the spyder gear's will eat into the cup. They got a thick ring behind them to prevent just that.

You do got a point on the gear's eating into the cross pin's. Will check the diff's this weekend if there's any damage done.

They will get skewed if they eat in the pin, and will damage the housing if they do so, you don't need to worry about that Sicco, with your diffs, the power is divided over 6 pins instead of 4..

Ok cool. Just gonna check on them cheap molded spyder's anyway. Might replace them with those metal one's I saw on tower's.

Have you got a link to this things on towers?

Sure do.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCWK1&P=7

Just saw the measurement's. Anyone know the diameter of the tiny spyder's of the 8 spyder diff's?

These won't fit Sicco!

gears are a different size, to fit 6 in a circle.

I was afraid of that by the judging picture's.

I will wait for me to break mine then put something better in it.
I am not going to worry though.