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RC-Monster Mike 05.04.2010 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 362915)
Mike, what about the new style mount for the Losi's?

Working on that one, too - I will updat some of the 1/8 mounts to the new style, but a slightly modified version to allow M4 or m3 screws to be used. :)

The inside dimesnions are 168mm x 55mm for the battery compartment.

AMorgan 05.04.2010 10:32 AM

4mm compatability FTW. Thanks for the dimensions, Mike. I just found out my batteries are BOed until June *grumble.* Cant wait to try these parts out.

brushlessboy16 05.04.2010 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RC-Monster Mike (Post 362918)
Working on that one, too - I will updat some of the 1/8 mounts to the new style, but a slightly modified version to allow M4 or m3 screws to be used. :)

The inside dimesnions are 168mm x 55mm for the battery compartment.

Battery tray is HUGE!. Mike as a possible addon. Make some sort of L bracket that fits in the battery tray with adjustable placement to accomodate smaller packs better. my 4s 4100mah pack is Swimming in the tray. :lol:

Mike how do you have the wiring exiting your packs.. mine hits the side of the trays. Might shave it down a bit.

Other points worth noting.

- Need to shave down a small bit of the servo tray, the raised motor mount changes the front driveshaft angle and it runs into the tray.. a bench grinder fixed it in about 30 seconds.

-Wire channel under the Battery tray would be nice. i ran my wires under the lip of the tray and across where the battery strap sits.. a little channel would be great and simple to impliment.

-Brass Inserts are great! Self locking, you can really crank down on them without worrying about stripping them out.

Ill report back later today after i give her a good shakedown run

RC-Monster Mike 05.04.2010 12:27 PM

Unless the battery is stuffed into the tray(big battery), the wires should not pose a problem with most packs. I am not sure how your little 4100mah 4s pack that is "swimming" in the tray has a wire interference? as far as an insert for placing smaller packs - I use a thin padded foam in the bottom of my trays - provides great traction and the packs don't move during use(could place a smaller pack near the rear of the tray and it will still be there at the end of the run).

I did consider the wire trail on the under side of the tray - the problem is that it would route the wires into harms way due to the big cutout in the chassis for the flywheel. It would be easy enough to make the trail available, but I wouldn't use it myself, as the rx wire leads would end up getting damaged eventually from track debris. There should be enough room to route the wire under the tray out along the mudguard and back to the radio box with the vecro strap - this way is safer imo. :)

brushlessboy16 05.04.2010 02:22 PM

I have my packs setup with the cells laying on their sides, so the wires hit the side of box. I could turn them on edge and have the wires sticking straight up. but then the cells are on edge...

AMorgan 05.08.2010 09:32 PM

Mike, are those dimensions correct? That would make your tray larger than the stock losi one. Is that correct? Just checking.

RC-Monster Mike 05.10.2010 10:34 AM

The inside dimensions are correct - I typically make the inside dimensions as large as possible within the size envelope - you can put 5 gallons in a 10 gallon container, but 10 gallons wil never fit a 5 gallon container! I use foam padding when using packs smaller than the tray size, which has dual benefits - the foam offers great traction, so the packs stay where I put them, but I also can fine tune the weight balance with battery placement. :)

AMorgan 05.10.2010 10:46 AM

Hrm, I was hoping for something that would let me move my battery fore or aft with less open space than stock... guess I'll have to go custom. I understand the reasoning, but my batteries will float in there in all directions. At least we already know where the holes need to be :) I'll have to send you dimensions when the batteries get here, Mike. Stupid backorder until June...

brushlessboy16 05.10.2010 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by AMorgan (Post 363756)
Hrm, I was hoping for something that would let me move my battery fore or aft with less open space than stock... guess I'll have to go custom. I understand the reasoning, but my batteries will float in there in all directions. At least we already know where the holes need to be :) I'll have to send you dimensions when the batteries get here, Mike. Stupid backorder until June...

I used a block of Delrin plastic, cut it to be used as a spacer for my largest pack. thinking about putting velcro on he tray instead of the block

Overdriven 05.10.2010 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RC-Monster Mike (Post 362918)
Working on that one, too - I will updat some of the 1/8 mounts to the new style, but a slightly modified version to allow M4 or m3 screws to be used. :)

I knew I should've checked the store before I bought my 8t 2.0. I hate to be one of those impatient people constantly badgering you for a release date, so hurry so I don't have to!!! :-) Out of curiousity though, how big of a spur gear can the mount fit? Stock Losi 8t 2.0 is 50t, will I need to go to a smaller spur?

nitrostarter 05.10.2010 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Overdriven (Post 363769)
I knew I should've checked the store before I bought my 8t 2.0. I hate to be one of those impatient people constantly badgering you for a release date, so hurry so I don't have to!!! :-) Out of curiousity though, how big of a spur gear can the mount fit? Stock Losi 8t 2.0 is 50t, will I need to go to a smaller spur?

Well, in the e-8 conversions, the differential gets spun around 180 degrees. Anything larger that a 45T spur will need some grinding on the chassis or a slot cut for the gear to clear. This is the case unless Mike's new mount will provide a spacer/riser for the differential.

brushlessboy16 05.10.2010 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 363773)
Well, in the e-8 conversions, the differential gets spun around 180 degrees. Anything larger that a 45T spur will need some grinding on the chassis or a slot cut for the gear to clear. This is the case unless Mike's new mount will provide a spacer/riser for the differential.

Not entirely true.


mikes CURRENT mount has the spacer for a 48t....:yes:

Overdriven 05.10.2010 01:43 PM

I knew the rcm mount had a spacer and could probably run a bigger spur than the 45-46t everyone else is running. Thanks brushlessboy16, I'm sure the new mount will be the same, now I know what I'm going to have to do when the new mounts are availible. I'm not too keen on cutting up the stock chassis for the 50t. But since the mount isn't availible yet I do have time to make a carbon fiber chassis...

AMorgan 05.10.2010 01:47 PM

BB16 is correct. The current mount has about a 4mm spacer for the other side of the center diff to space it up. I am running a 45T spur and there's plenty of air under it. Wish I could get one a little lower since it puts the center shafts and a pretty strong angle. If I could make one request it would be make an 8ight mount that fit up to a 46T and then a T mount that could fit the bigger stuff. Like BB said, the front center shaft is dangerously close to the radio box.

I like the delrin spacer idea, but I only plan to use 1 battery type with my losi, so I'd just as soon pay the extra 5 bucks for a custom size that moves it towards the center and lets me move the battery fore and aft. I just wish they'd get here so I could confirm the case size. I may measure a 2S version of my pack to get it dimensioned. TPs website lists the 2s, 3s and 4s as identical W and L but with different heights. I know where there is a 2s available. I'd just like to get the mechanicals and electricals squared away now so I'm good to go when the batteries get here. I'm still waiting anxiously for the new 4mm mounts. I'll be getting one of those too... and hybrid revo diffs if they ever come available again. Can't blame Mike too much, though. He's just one man. If he could turn stuff out the moment we wanted it, he'd need 36 hour days.

brushlessboy16 05.10.2010 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AMorgan (Post 363789)
BB16 is correct. The current mount has about a 4mm spacer for the other side of the center diff to space it up. I am running a 45T spur and there's plenty of air under it. Wish I could get one a little lower since it puts the center shafts and a pretty strong angle. If I could make one request it would be make an 8ight mount that fit up to a 46T and then a T mount that could fit the bigger stuff. Like BB said, the front center shaft is dangerously close to the radio box.

I like the delrin spacer idea, but I only plan to use 1 battery type with my losi, so I'd just as soon pay the extra 5 bucks for a custom size that moves it towards the center and lets me move the battery fore and aft. I just wish they'd get here so I could confirm the case size. I may measure a 2S version of my pack to get it dimensioned. TPs website lists the 2s, 3s and 4s as identical W and L but with different heights. I know where there is a 2s available. I'd just like to get the mechanicals and electricals squared away now so I'm good to go when the batteries get here. I'm still waiting anxiously for the new 4mm mounts. I'll be getting one of those too... and hybrid revo diffs if they ever come available again. Can't blame Mike too much, though. He's just one man. If he could turn stuff out the moment we wanted it, he'd need 36 hour days.

I had to shave mine with the T. But the angle isnt that bad compared to stock...


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