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Nard Cox 05.04.2010 07:11 PM

http://rsb.se/gallery/files/1/5/3/dsc_0181.jpg

You can find it in the SWE forum link he has in the first post ;)

Bondonutz 05.04.2010 07:19 PM

Thanks Bro, missed that somehow?

Impressive Mill !
Looks like a freakin' Soda can.

Finnster 05.04.2010 09:16 PM

Wow... v nice. Will be watching. :)

Kcaz25 05.04.2010 11:26 PM

Instant favorite! God, thank you for Brushless technology.

nuz69 05.05.2010 03:24 AM

In the link he gave.

mckrill 05.05.2010 05:06 AM

Thanks,

I will gradually transfer the images over here and write comments in English. I know my self how boring it might get when trying to understand the text in a foreign building thread if the language is completely non-understandable...

Here's a image showing the ESC and the motor, quite beefy to get into the chassis. I have added 1.5 inch to the wheel base.

http://rsb.se/gallery/files/1/5/3/dsc_0220.jpg

mckrill 05.05.2010 05:09 AM

So, here's the most complicated and time consuming part of the project - making the lipo trays...

Parts for the molds coming up:

http://rsb.se/gallery/files/1/5/3/dsc_0231.jpg

http://rsb.se/gallery/files/1/5/3/dsc_0229.jpg

http://rsb.se/gallery/files/1/5/3/dsc_0239.jpg

mckrill 05.05.2010 05:11 AM

I never tried the functionality of the release agent on the MDF material before starting the lamination - it turned out to be a very time consuming mistake.

mckrill 05.05.2010 06:09 AM

I never had the time to take any photos during the lamination as it was very complex - sorry for that, but here's images of the result.

It looks a little wavy, but it is only the fiber direction on the two topmost layers of Kevlar, the surface is very flat and nice. These top layers were draped over the boxes after the trays were polished.

http://rsb.se/gallery/files/1/5/3/dsc03901.jpg

http://rsb.se/gallery/files/1/5/3/dsc03905.jpg

Cutting and grinding the final shape was done later in the project..

mckrill 05.05.2010 06:10 AM

More images, now with lipos in it

http://rsb.se/gallery/files/1/5/3/dsc03910.jpg

http://rsb.se/gallery/files/1/5/3/dsc03908.jpg

JERRY2KONE 05.05.2010 07:27 AM

Nice project
 
Nice project. This is the first time I have seen anyone doing so much of their own fabricating for an R/C build. That is cool that you have so much experience with the laminating process to come up with such a unique project. Keep up the good work. I can only imagine what 14S is going to do with that motor setup.

mckrill 05.05.2010 08:09 AM

Next part was a top chassis plate to bind the servosaver with the center diff assembly and the side plates. As it also should act as a stop and protection of the Lipo from the main gear it needed a 90deg angle.

8 bidirectional layers of carbon fiber = 2mm

By the way - the layers of fabric in the lipo trays was bidirectional.

http://rsb.se/gallery/files/1/5/3/dsc_0221.jpg

nuz69 05.05.2010 08:25 AM

What are the kV and weight of your 4,4kW motor ^^
If we do the comparison, 1520/1Y NEU-CC is rated average 2kW :D :D
This savage will be a monster

mckrill 05.05.2010 09:03 AM

kV is 925, weight apx 800 grams - Lehners, Neu or other HQ motors have approximately the same power/weight ratio. Availability and my experience of Lehner motors was the base for my choice. I know there are tons of opinions in this area...

It will be interesting to analyze the logging data someday

Here is the lehner motor data on 14s = 50V from their webpage http://www.lehner-motoren.com
The data @ 186A is the peak efficiency data

Motor type*2280/8, Windungen Windings*8, Spannung Voltage*50 V, Ri*8 mΩ
Current Input power rpm Momentum Output power Efficiency
/ A / W / min / Ncm / W / %
50.00 2,480.00 45,868 49.00 2,187.33 88.20
100.00 4,920.00 45,498 104.12 4,572.84 92.94
150.00 7,320.00 45,129 159.23 6,880.22 93.99
186.00 9,023.23 44,862 198.92 8,493.71 94.13
200.00 9,680.00 44,759 214.35 9,110.46 94.12

nuz69 05.05.2010 09:15 AM

50k RPM at fully charged Lipo :yipi::yipi:
With 200A continuous current :yipi::yipi: ===> TORQUE :yipi:
94% efficiency :D :D :D
What will be your gearing ? Trying to get the 80 mph ?
The price of this german motor ? ;)


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