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simplechamp 05.27.2010 06:32 PM

I think for my home machine I still prefer a series of regular HDDs in a RAID configuration, mostly because of the cost (for an HDD it's about 10-20 cents per GB, the SSD I just got was $2.66 per GB) and bigger size. But for my netbook where I am carrying it around a lot and it's more likely to get bumped or dropped, the SSD makes more sense. I don't need the big 1TB size drive in the netbook since I mostly use it for email and web browsing. The SSD also uses less power, but not sure if or how much it will affect overall battery life.

lucias 05.27.2010 06:38 PM

I bought them to play with them, I still have terabyte's of data drives. I actually just setup my new file server and my Newzbin sites are getting shutdown for the moment..

Your laptop should see a vast improvement in performance and battery life from what I have read. I don't use my except for on the couch or I would think about buying one for mine..

simplechamp 05.27.2010 06:44 PM

I remember one time when I was moving, I packed up all my computer stuff together, including my surround sound system (big subwoofer) and without even thinking about it set one of my big external HDDs right on top of it. Kissed about 750GB of music, movies, and tv shows goodbye that day...

rawfuls 05.27.2010 09:00 PM

Honestly, I think SSD will be taking over... soon.

Their write/read limit is a bit too.....little to me.
If it follows as flash drives do, I'll definitely pass 'til the technology advances a bit.

My previous flash drives last me a few good years (Reputable ones, like Sandisk?), and then all of a sudden, wabam, everything's gone, isn't even recognized.
Had this happen to friends, and multiple times for me.

A regular HDD is fine for me as long as I'm not bouncing around in the dunes.

What's_nitro? 05.27.2010 09:06 PM

Too expensive for me ATM... Like most of you guys I'll be waiting a year or two for the price to go down and storage capacity/lifetime to go up!

zeropointbug 05.27.2010 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 367083)
I just did a little more research and apparently, the life cycle is up to around 1,000,000 write cycles now. Oh, and ZPB, the term you are looking for is "wear leveling".

Not quite the same thing as I was originally thinking, but TRIM is what it's called, actually for cleaning up blocks and doing smart erasing, keeps the drive performing faster over time than one without it.

BrianG 05.27.2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by zeropointbug (Post 367152)
Not quite the same thing as I was originally thinking, but TRIM is what it's called, actually for cleaning up blocks and doing smart erasing, keeps the drive performing faster over time than one without it.

Yeah, TRIM is something different. And if I'm not mistaken, the OS has to support it too. Also, TRIM is required if you want to encrypt the data, or securely wipe the data.

brijar 05.28.2010 12:03 AM

I just recently got a Kingston SSDNow V series 64GB drive for my graduation present. It was $112 after the rebate (they have another deal going at Newegg right now for the same drive for $115 after rebate). Gosh this thing is amazing! Windows 7 boots in 30 seconds consistently and programs open instantly. Haven't really had any crashes yet, though haven't had the drive very long. I didn't notice much of a difference for games like Just Cause 2 and DiRT 2, but something does feel a bit faster about them. I've got my 1TB drive to hold all my extra non-program data. Just gave my extra 750GB drive to my brother because his old 120GB IDE drive was very full and slow lol.

I'm really hoping that SSDs come down in price and up in capacity, as I'd really like to have a 128GB drive for my main system drive and a 256GB drive for my laptop. The speed and access times of these things are just insane.

Brijar!!!

rawfuls 05.28.2010 12:07 AM

Also, another con for me, is when these SSDs fail, there's nothing bringing them back, unless you're a pro at micro (and I mean MICRO) soldering, and can toss the flash chip on another board... Even then, that's gonna be tough..

squeeforever 05.28.2010 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rawfuls (Post 367169)
Also, another con for me, is when these SSDs fail, there's nothing bringing them back, unless you're a pro at micro (and I mean MICRO) soldering, and can toss the flash chip on another board... Even then, that's gonna be tough..

Honestly, soldering small stuff like that is pretty damn easy. The smallest thing I can even think of as far as soldering goes is SMDs. SMD resistors and SMD LEDs are pretty easy to solder if you just have a little patience. As for size, a SMD LED or resistor is about the size of the E in Liberty on a dime...

I've had a good bit of practice though on my PSP. :lol:

rawfuls 05.28.2010 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by squeeforever (Post 367186)
Honestly, soldering small stuff like that is pretty damn easy. The smallest thing I can even think of as far as soldering goes is SMDs. SMD resistors and SMD LEDs are pretty easy to solder if you just have a little patience. As for size, a SMD LED or resistor is about the size of the E in Liberty on a dime...

I've had a good bit of practice though on my PSP. :lol:

Then you, squee, have WAY too much time on your hands.. :lol:

snellemin 05.28.2010 03:05 AM

I've used SSD drive in my laptops for a while now. Sure makes an average laptop faster. But I still don't like it's performance in a desktop. Writing large amount of data is just too slow compared to a good ol' 10k drive.

Nard Cox 05.28.2010 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by zeropointbug (Post 367081)
Don't you mean 25 years ago? 15 years ago I had a 4GB HDD in with a Pentium 166mhz 32mb ram PC, beat that. :mdr:

Also possible, I'm just 24y old so can't remember 25y back :angel:. But it's ways funny when people say they will never need the space.

@ BrianG, thanks 4 the update. I should keep track of the news more ...

kraegar 05.28.2010 07:29 AM

I've not bothered to drop the cash on them for personal use. I'm OK with the speeds I'm getting out of sata drives in a RAID array for now.

However, at work we've begun experimenting with them in our SAN, using IBM's server class SSD's (rebranded), and putting the "hot" data on them. Our storage controllers are smart enough to start noticing block write issues, and the SSD's we're getting have built-in redundancy, and early warnings for impending failures. That being said, they drastically improve performance for the entire SC when we move the hottest data to them. It's pretty cool stuff.

Tony

shaunjohnson 05.28.2010 07:37 AM

i run a pc that cost me a grand total of $20
i bought a pentium 4 3.4ghz 775 socket off ebay for $20.
the rest is all stuff that people threw out, 160gb HDD sata II, 40gb IDE for windows only so if it crashes i just throw it out and put in the spare 40gb with a fresh windows on it.
2gb of ram (corsair?)
and a gigabyte S-series MB.

but i wont be getting a SSD anytime in the near future niether will i be getting one of them STUPID external HDD's. wow...1 terrabyte of space, what it will like take ALL day to fill it assuming you have that much porn....harold :lol:


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