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slimthelineman 10.23.2010 03:51 PM

My guess is the 1410 on 3s might pull too much current on the sc controller. Just a guess
sounds interesting though as I have not tried 3s on the 4600 yet. I'm sure the mmpro can handle it but I didn't even think about switching speed.

ta_man 10.23.2010 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slimthelineman (Post 385112)
My guess is the 1410 on 3s might pull too much current on the sc controller. Just a guess
sounds interesting though as I have not tried 3s on the 4600 yet. I'm sure the mmpro can handle it but I didn't even think about switching speed.

I understand the 1410 on 3S might be beyond what the Sidewinder SC can handle - that's why I asked abouit using with MMP or Monster. I didn't think about switching speed until later, by which time Ferret had already posted his reply. The 1410 4 pole on 3S would need a switching speed equivalent to that required by an 11,400KV 2 pole motor on 2S. That's up to 96K RPM on the 2 pole motor with 2S.

Pdelcast 10.23.2010 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ta_man (Post 385113)
I understand the 1410 on 3S might be beyond what the Sidewinder SC can handle - that's why I asked abouit using with MMP or Monster. I didn't think about switching speed until later, by which time Ferret had already posted his reply. The 1410 4 pole on 3S would need a switching speed equivalent to that required by an 11,400KV 2 pole motor on 2S. That's up to 96K RPM on the 2 pole motor with 2S.

We don't recommend 3s because if we did, everyone with a 4wd SC truck would immediately try it... And that motor isn't appropriate for 3s in a 4wd SCT truck.

Both the motor and controller are 3s capable, in the right application... But not in a 4wd SCT truck.

KniteWulfe 10.23.2010 11:42 PM

I heard from an inside source the sidewinder sc esc is actually closer in capability to the original mamba max. Is this true? What kind of power handling are we looking at?

plumslow 10.24.2010 05:15 PM

What is the BEC output voltage for the sidewinder ESC?

Pdelcast 10.25.2010 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by plumslow (Post 385217)
What is the BEC output voltage for the sidewinder ESC?

It's a 5V BEC, just like the original Sidewinder.

Pdelcast 10.25.2010 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KniteWulfe (Post 385149)
I heard from an inside source the sidewinder sc esc is actually closer in capability to the original mamba max. Is this true? What kind of power handling are we looking at?

Yes, the power handling on the Sidewinder SCT is close to the original Mamba Max.

It's quite robust. :yes:

crazyjr 10.25.2010 09:00 PM

Patrick, I have a 3+year old mamba max setup with a 4600kv CM 36 motor, I am planning to get a 4600kv 1406 and a 1410/3800kv for running in a stadium truck (associated T4). If i wanted to save money, I could just get the motors. Is there anything in the design of the sc sidewinder that the mamba max is missing? Would it perform better my mamba max? Just wondering if i really need to replace the esc, to get the most out of the motors. Thanks for any info

T-birdJunkie 10.26.2010 12:42 AM

So is the new motor going to be available separately along with the speed controls and combos hitting the shelves, or are they coming later?

Definitely want the motor for the SC10...may as well get the combo though at $110 and put the speedo in the buggy too though. HRMM.

Pdelcast 10.26.2010 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyjr (Post 385357)
Patrick, I have a 3+year old mamba max setup with a 4600kv CM 36 motor, I am planning to get a 4600kv 1406 and a 1410/3800kv for running in a stadium truck (associated T4). If i wanted to save money, I could just get the motors. Is there anything in the design of the sc sidewinder that the mamba max is missing? Would it perform better my mamba max? Just wondering if i really need to replace the esc, to get the most out of the motors. Thanks for any info

The MM is a great controller - - power handling of the SCT is close, but not quite the same as the MM. The MM has higher burst capacity than the SCT, but the SCT has a better thermal design than the MM.

I'd stick with the MM and save the money. Then get an SCT later if you want a less expensive option to the MMP.

Thanx!

Arct1k 10.26.2010 08:06 PM

Patrick any ETA on just the motors and a guestimate on street price - Cheers

crazyjr 10.27.2010 04:20 AM

Thanks Patrick, i didn't see anything different, even the BEC is the same type. Glad i don't need the SC to fully use the new motors

Semi Pro 10.27.2010 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 385353)
It's a 5V BEC, just like the original Sidewinder.

come one patric, you need to start putting a good adjustable bec into all of the new esc's, we would all be more than happy to pay the little bit extra it would cost

5a bec's are great for stock traxxas servos but alot of us run servos that need much more and haveing to ad an external bec to everything we run just makes our wireing look unclean and makes it harder to pass inspections at the track

ta_man 10.27.2010 04:17 PM

Got one!
 
My Sidewinder SCT arrived. It is raining here today so I will have to wait to try it. Got some pics.

Nice packaging:
http://s92437987.onlinehome.us/ebaypics/Misc/sct-1.jpg

Without the foam:
http://s92437987.onlinehome.us/ebaypics/Misc/sct-2.jpg

Just the motor: 4 Pole for more torque. "Fins" are not really fins but grooves in the motor can:
http://s92437987.onlinehome.us/ebaypics/Misc/sct-3.jpg

Blower fits nice, came with zip ties to hold it on:
http://s92437987.onlinehome.us/ebaypics/Misc/sct-4.jpg

Just the ESC - a nice label:
http://s92437987.onlinehome.us/ebaypics/Misc/sct-5.jpg

And shows as 3S capable in the right application:
http://s92437987.onlinehome.us/ebaypics/Misc/sct-6.jpg

Last but not least, the expected warning at the bottom of the instruction sheet:

"This product may contain chemicals known to the state of Califiornia to cause cancer and or birth defects or other reproductive harm. Do not eat this product, it doesn't taste good."

Semi Pro 10.27.2010 04:30 PM

where did you get it from?


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