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What's_nitro? 01.12.2011 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 393681)
200-300 ohms might be a bit much -- ... I'd try 100 ohms in series with the LEDs to see if that fixes the problem.

Thanx!

Patrick

I was thinking of general 6v operation- 20-30 mA is fine those small LEDs. If less resistance is needed to fix it then you'll have some brighter LEDs is all. Probably shorter lifespan, but oh well... :smile:

Pdelcast 01.12.2011 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by What's_nitro? (Post 393685)
I was thinking of general 6v operation- 20-30 mA is fine those small LEDs. If less resistance is needed to fix it then you'll have some brighter LEDs is all. Probably shorter lifespan, but oh well... :smile:

But don't forget about 5V will be dropped by the LEDs, leaving about 1.1V to drop across the resistor. 100 ohms would limit current to about 11ma.

BrianG 01.12.2011 10:57 PM

Those look like high output white LEDs which I assume is for "headlights", so they need to have ~20mA or more for that use. IIRC, typical white high brightness LEDs have a Vf of a little higher than 3v. So, on 6v, they shouldn't be driven enough to technically need a resistor, but obviously something is wrong.

If anything, I'd re-wire them up so instead of 2s2p, they are 1s4p. And then use the 100-150 ohm resistor for each LED. You could use a single common resistor for all LEDs in parallel, but that's not advised.

What's_nitro? 01.12.2011 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 393686)
But don't forget about 5V will be dropped by the LEDs, leaving about 1.1V to drop across the resistor. 100 ohms would limit current to about 11ma.

Oops, I forgot. :lol:

Pdelcast 01.12.2011 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 393687)
Those look like high output white LEDs which I assume is for "headlights", so they need to have ~20mA or more for that use. IIRC, typical white high brightness LEDs have a Vf of a little higher than 3v. So, on 6v, they shouldn't be driven enough to technically need a resistor, but obviously something is wrong.

If anything, I'd re-wire them up so instead of 2s2p, they are 1s4p. And then use the 100-150 ohm resistor for each LED. You could use a single common resistor for all LEDs in parallel, but that's not advised.

You know -- the LEDs that are on-board the MMP are driven by the BEC ... and they are 3P with 470 ohms on each.

So sounds to me like Brian's idea would be best.

BrianG 01.12.2011 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 393689)
You know -- the LEDs that are on-board the MMP are driven by the BEC ... and they are 3P with 470 ohms on each.

Yeah, but that's around 7mA each. and light uniformity probably isn't a big concern. I was playing around with similar white high brightness LEDs a while back (making a 80 LED bench light) and a common resistor can get largish if enough LEDs are used in parallel at 20mA each. In this case, only 4 are used, but that still requires around 0.5w resistor. Also, when used as headlights, the brightness should be uniform for best appearance, and a common resistor didn't give good results in my playing around. I ended up making 4 strings of 20 LEDs in series and using a simple CC circuit for each chain.

By the way, I'm not trying to sound argumentative, it just might sound that way. :oops:

Pdelcast 01.12.2011 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 393694)
Yeah, but that's around 7mA each. and light uniformity probably isn't a big concern. I was playing around with similar white high brightness LEDs a while back (making a 80 LED bench light) and a common resistor can get largish if enough LEDs are used in parallel at 20mA each. In this case, only 4 are used, but that still requires around 0.5w resistor. Also, when used as headlights, the brightness should be uniform for best appearance, and a common resistor didn't give good results in my playing around. I ended up making 4 strings of 20 LEDs in series and using a simple CC circuit for each chain.

By the way, I'm not trying to sound argumentative, it just might sound that way. :oops:

No, I wasn't suggesting a common resistor. I was agreeing with you. :lol:

BrianG 01.12.2011 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 393696)
No, I wasn't suggesting a common resistor. I was agreeing with you. :lol:

lol. I saw your edit after I replied. :smile:


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