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Dj_Sparky 06.01.2011 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by x-y (Post 407619)
I will use the 1717 ......... if the motor dont arrive at 50.000rpm will be ok ....... if I arrive at this rpm the car will fly at 150mph :lol:

I think 150mph is impossible ........ but 120-130mph Im sure I will arrive :yes:

I just meant, isn't the wattage rating of the 1717 rated at 3500 max? And what combo are you planning on runing at 9-12s?

x-y 06.01.2011 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dj_Sparky (Post 407620)
I just meant, isn't the wattage rating of the 1717 rated at 3500 max? And what combo are you planning on runing at 9-12s?


3500w is the power of a 1520 ........... 4500w is for a 1717 ;)

http://rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30091

Dj_Sparky 06.01.2011 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by x-y (Post 407623)
3500w is the power of a 1520 ........... 4500w is for a 1717 ;)

http://rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30091

Seems more like it's at 4000w compared to similar motors (in weight.).

Anyhow, you can't run the 1717 at 9s +..

x-y 06.01.2011 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dj_Sparky (Post 407624)
Seems more like it's at 4000w compared to similar motors (in weight.).

Anyhow, you can't run the 1717 at 9s +..

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ZippyBasher 06.01.2011 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dj_Sparky (Post 407624)
Anyhow, you can't run the 1717 at 9s +..

Sure you can. You can run 15s... Just not covered by warranty... :lol:

But seriously the 1520 would be a better option IMHO. Patrick from Castle stated that the diameter of the rotor being just the little bigger in the 1717 make the centrifugal forces so much more on the magnet and wrappings = More prone to failing when running those 60,000+ RPMs. And I do remember him saying that they were accidently testing to 100k when the MMM Combo first arrived with the same dia. rotor. Hence the 45k and 60k limits on either motor.

Either way Castle IS coming out with new rotors for the 1717/1520 soon, So have at it! Video it and break some records. Just stop throttle if you hear a pop. My dad was running the 2650 on 6s for months and the rotor finally gave and his windings were OK because he didnt try to gas it IMO.

This is a hobby and is meant to be entertaining, And It sure will be...:smile:

killajb 06.01.2011 10:52 PM

..this oughta be good..

i love it when speed demons recklessly test the physical limits of rc components i own so that i don't have to :)

Dj_Sparky 06.02.2011 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ZippyBasher (Post 407627)
Sure you can. You can run 15s... Just not covered by warranty... :lol:

But seriously the 1520 would be a better option IMHO. Patrick from Castle stated that the diameter of the rotor being just the little bigger in the 1717 make the centrifugal forces so much more on the magnet and wrappings = More prone to failing when running those 60,000+ RPMs. And I do remember him saying that they were accidently testing to 100k when the MMM Combo first arrived with the same dia. rotor. Hence the 45k and 60k limits on either motor.

Either way Castle IS coming out with new rotors for the 1717/1520 soon, So have at it! Video it and break some records. Just stop throttle if you hear a pop. My dad was running the 2650 on 6s for months and the rotor finally gave and his windings were OK because he didnt try to gas it IMO.

This is a hobby and is meant to be entertaining, And It sure will be...:smile:

Running the 1717 on 9s will be pushing it to the extreme limit IMO.

Mozzy 06.14.2011 09:01 AM

The 1717 won't last on anything over 45,000rpm.

The rotor will blow apart.

Make sure you film it when it does. :-)

Hyper-5 06.14.2011 09:34 AM

just being a little out of the thread, but what kv would be better to run on 6s to get the highest speed?

Bmr4life 06.14.2011 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Hyper-5 (Post 408323)
just being a little out of the thread, but what kv would be better to run on 6s to get the highest speed?

2200kv - buggy or truggy. 2650kv has been used on 6s a lot, but isn't necessary.

Hyper-5 06.14.2011 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmr4life (Post 408324)
2200kv - buggy or truggy. 2650kv has been used on 6s a lot, but isn't necessary.

why not a 2650kv?

Bmr4life 06.14.2011 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Hyper-5 (Post 408325)
why not a 2650kv?

Not meant for 6s use, especially not in a heavy truggy. You can get away with it in a lighter buggy, but the 2200kv has more torque and can be geared up for the lower KV number.

What vehicle are you putting it in? If its light enough, the 2650kv can work.

I put one in my rc8be on 5s geared for the moon, only for high speed runs. Hit 78mph before having to slam on the brakes do to lack of runway.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...E/IMAG0027.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...E/IMAG0028.jpg

Hyper-5 06.14.2011 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmr4life (Post 408326)
Not meant for 6s use, especially not in a heavy truggy. You can get away with it in a lighter buggy, but the 2200kv has more torque and can be geared up for the lower KV number.

What vehicle are you putting it in? If its light enough, the 2650kv can work.

atm with my hyper 8 set up using 3s, it weighs at 3.5kg, 7.72lbs, would that be light?

Bmr4life 06.14.2011 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hyper-5 (Post 408327)
atm with my hyper 8 set up using 3s, it weighs at 3.5kg, 7.72lbs, would that be light?

Definitely, lol. Not a problem. Double that would be an issue.

Hyper-5 06.14.2011 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmr4life (Post 408328)
Definitely, lol. Not a problem. Double that would be an issue.

lol good, how much does you buggy weigh? cause l thought mine was bluddy heavy, heres a vid of mine in action
http://www.youtube.com/user/ND0994?feature=mhee

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/pict...&pictureid=891


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