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bdebde 04.24.2012 02:58 PM

I would sure like to know as well... getting a castle motor in different kv and purple... priceless.

bigblkblazin 04.24.2012 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bdebde (Post 420420)
I would sure like to know as well... getting a castle motor in different kv and purple... priceless.

I really could care less about the can... Make repair kits for the 1717 already .

:diablo::diablo::diablo::diablo::diablo:

bdebde 04.24.2012 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bigblkblazin (Post 420421)
I really could care less about the can... Make repair kits for the 1717 already .

:diablo::diablo::diablo::diablo::diablo:

If they are the same motors... the repair kits for those ones will work.

bigblkblazin 04.26.2012 03:09 PM

So whos gonna be the ginea pig and get one for inspect it once and for all .

suicideneil 06.01.2012 08:48 PM

Update:

http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/topic/14...pole-monsters/

Nice looking motors and the prices are awesome- finally, a UK based option for decent 4 pole motors that aren't too pricey or take a month to arrive. Castle, why u no say anything ( you'll notice the font on the boxes is identical to what Castle uses )?

Pdelcast 06.06.2012 05:06 PM

Sorry no comment guys, I haven't been on RC Monster in a couple months. I've been really really busy.

I can't comment -- legal proceedings pending against this company in Hong Kong and China.

This is NOT the same company that makes our motors.

lutach 06.07.2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 421392)
Sorry no comment guys, I haven't been on RC Monster in a couple months. I've been really really busy.

I can't comment -- legal proceedings pending against this company in Hong Kong and China.

This is NOT the same company that makes our motors.

I thought Castle Creation made Castle/Neu motors!!!!! So.....What company makes your motors Patrick :whistle::whistle:.

Pdelcast 06.07.2012 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lutach (Post 421444)
I thought Castle Creation made Castle/Neu motors!!!!! So.....What company makes your motors Patrick :whistle::whistle:.

Sirius motors are NOT manufactured by Castle Holdings LLC China.

Castle Holdings LLC China is a wholly owned Foreign Enterprise in Zhongshan China - -owned by Castle Holdings LLC Kansas.

Sirius motors is not affiliated with Castle Creations or Castle Holdings LLC in ANY way. Other than the fact that they have cloned our design, and don't pay any royalties. (regardless of what they claim...)

Leopard motors is ALSO not affiliated with Castle Creations, or Castle Holdings LLC in ANY way.

They can claim what they want -- but it comes down to the fact that these companies clone designs, pretend to be OEMs for Castle, and use those lies to create market share.

From what I understand, Sirius motors was claiming in the Shanghai show to be the same manufacturer that builds Castle motors. They do NOT build Castle motors. Castle Holdings LLC builds Castle motors, and no one else. Castle Holdings LLC pays royalties to Steve Neu for his designs and design work. Sirius motors DOES NOT pay any royalties at all. So, they are an unethical company misleading the public about their status to use our name to increase their market share.

Pdelcast 06.07.2012 04:14 PM

Oh -- and BTW -- there are FOUR brushless motor companies in Zhongshan that I know of, Castle Holdings and Scorpion motors are about 1/2 mile apart -- and there are at least two others.

Zhongshan a huge industrial area (4500 sq miles) with a population of about 4 million. Electrical and Lighting are the industries there.

Castle Holdings and Scorpion are in Xiaolan town, Sirius is in a different area of the city.

suicideneil 06.07.2012 07:15 PM

I knew this was too good to be true, thankyou Patrick & I hope you nail them for this. Any comment on Torke motors that are another clone?

http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/topic/14.../page__st__150

Poop, meet fan....

ta_man 06.07.2012 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 421470)
I knew this was too good to be true, thankyou Patrick & I hope you nail them for this. Any comment on Torke motors that are another clone?

http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/topic/14.../page__st__150

Poop, meet fan....

The ignorance manifested by certain people on that forum boggles the mind.

That they must be made by the same company that makes Castle motors just because the look the same outside....

Pdelcast 06.07.2012 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 421470)
I knew this was too good to be true, thankyou Patrick & I hope you nail them for this. Any comment on Torke motors that are another clone?

http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/topic/14.../page__st__150

Poop, meet fan....

Same company as Sirius. Still a clone. :)

suicideneil 06.08.2012 09:04 AM

Figures. This is interesting:

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Originally Posted by Kevin from Sirius
Hi, everyone, Sirius is an independent company, and we do not have any relationship with the Castle. But the castle please mind your words and deeds, any questions, come to me, do not hurt my clients, or even slander Sirius brand, for we do not use your brand to sell Sirius motors. Why you do so for us, ask your senior leadship, for they know what happened before. If you want to deal it, come to my company to solve it, and I also have something to be handled with you. You should know the address of my company. In a word, any problems, come to me. Do not trouble my clients. Thank you

Someone's cage has been rattled I think... :lol:

I'm curious about the issue with the photos though- piles of Castle motors in boxes doesn't prove anything on it's own- they could have been taken anywhere, at any time. I'm just curious about the line from Nick that Sirius was producing Castles motors for a while, hence the Castle motors allegedly in the Sirius warehouse...

josh9mille 06.08.2012 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin from Sirius
Hi, everyone, Sirius is an independent company, and we do not have any relationship with the Castle. But the castle please mind your words and deeds, any questions, come to me, do not hurt my clients, or even slander Sirius brand, for we do not use your brand to sell Sirius motors. Why you do so for us, ask your senior leadship, for they know what happened before. If you want to deal it, come to my company to solve it, and I also have something to be handled with you. You should know the address of my company. In a word, any problems, come to me. Do not trouble my clients. Thank you
That guy speaks almost perfect Engerish! :lol:

Pdelcast 06.08.2012 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 421488)
Figures. This is interesting:



Someone's cage has been rattled I think... :lol:

I'm curious about the issue with the photos though- piles of Castle motors in boxes doesn't prove anything on it's own- they could have been taken anywhere, at any time. I'm just curious about the line from Nick that Sirius was producing Castles motors for a while, hence the Castle motors allegedly in the Sirius warehouse...

What, Kevin posted and then pulled his post back down???


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