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zeropointbug 06.22.2013 02:51 PM

I vote truggy. I finally bought a Durango DNX408T with Mike's E conversion, I used to have a heavily hand customized Revo 3.3 brushless... this truggy is WORLDS better. The handling is absolutely phenomenal, I race at club level and my lap times went down 5 seconds already for this year, after 3 race days. The durability on it is pretty spectacular as well, having crashed HARD a few times already, nothing has broken or worn out.

Mugens have issues breaking their A-arms though, weak part on them.

Truggy! Do it!!!

A RC Dude 06.23.2013 07:18 PM

Wheelman and MonsterMaxx:
How much would those diffs be? And then i'd have to sink enough into vcd's and an aluminum output tranny gear (remember mine is the old version) or tranny conversion. more and more $$$$$ and the diffs in it now can already send it on it's led on demand, so acceleration/breaking wise they wont help, only when landing jumps.
I did break an RPM arm out of no ware a few runs ago and trying to get it off and the new one in was a nightmare with bent/buggered suspension pins. The more I think about it, the less I wanna keep working on this truck, it just keeps getting harder.

Ever since I got the mini 8ight and saw how well it handled (handles better than my old rally did on sticky tires that made it flip all the time), and saw how simple but effective the design is, the more I keep disliking the maxx... I kinda hate to get rid of the truck since I've had the thing for 7 years but i just have the feeling I'll be much happier and better off $ wise with a truggy.

zeropointbug: The mugen's break arms? Interesting... I really haven't heard much about how the durango or associated truggy compare.

Justinbolin 06.24.2013 02:25 AM

I had an RC8T FT brushless conversion. It was an awesome truck. It's wider and as long as the EMaxx, so you definitely won't be losing the size of a monster truck if you go with an RC8T or a Losi, mugen 1/8 Truggy.
My RC8T was incredibly nimble, great jumping, speed, braking, anything and everything I wanted in a bigger scale rc.
I currently have a couple Gorillamaxx G4 chassis'd EMaxx trucks, and a Gorillamaxx G2 chassis that I'm building.
In my opinion, you went with the wrong chassis for your truck. If you had gone with a Gorillamaxx G2, or G4 chassis, either chassis would've lowered your center of gravity (cog) and changed it driving characteristics to more of a Truggy style rc. With the FLM chassis, your 'cog' is still monster truck high.
Try mounting your batteries to the underside of the chassis instead of the top of the chassis. This will lower your cog and your EMaxx will handle better.
If you like how it runs after that small mod, then pick up some UE Diffs. Of you have the older 2.5 knuckles on your EMaxx, you can install a set of UE 6mm Cvds and you'd be hard presses to bend those.
UE Diffs: $299 - new, $200-$250 used
UE 6mm Cvds you can pick those up for $70-$100 depending on condition.
You'll spend more then that on a new Truggy even after you sale your EMaxx. If you eBay your EMaxx you'll probably get $150-$200 tops, especially if you have the stock 3906 trans in it.
Ps,
The guy with $700 EMaxx roller on eBay didn't get paid for the truck. There's was a couple noobs that bid the truck up to a ridiculous amount and then never paid.

WheelMan 06.24.2013 10:37 AM

Justin put it spot on for ya. If you're going to keep the Maxx, do those few things he mentioned, and see what a difference it makes.

And if you're just not happy with the truck after that, part it out and get something different. UE parts hold their value (even in used condition), so you could always get your money back out of it (or most of it, at least).


-Travis

A RC Dude 06.24.2013 03:08 PM

Justin-you really think the maxx will only bring 200?
that's depressing...lol

Justinbolin 06.24.2013 03:20 PM

Yeah, I doubt you'd get more then $200 for your EMaxx roller on eBay.
I've bought and sold more then a dozen EMaxx trucks on eBay. I bought an ext 3906 FLM chassis, built a brushless EMaxx out of it and didn't like it, broke it up and sold it on eBay. I have a pretty educated opinion on what any EMaxx part or truck will sale for on eBay.
If you want you can send me pics of your truck and I'll give you an accurate estimate of what your EMaxx roller will sale for.
But if you have a stock EMaxx with an FLM chassis, you're looking at $200 for the roller.

A RC Dude 06.24.2013 11:03 PM

It's FLM chassis/bulks/shock towers, RPM arms/axle carriers/skids/body posts, and aluminum shocks. I'd also be selling it with extra parts, custom aluminum battery tray/wheelie bar, a set of tires, the dual servos and a newly painted body with LED's I've wired up myself.
Also has a few small custom parts like the steel steering link

This picture is 2 years old, but gets the point across

http://i44.tinypic.com/dyb2m8.jpg

Justinbolin 06.25.2013 05:04 AM

Chassis: $75-$90
Towers: $30
Wheels: $25-$40. (Tuff to predict)
Trans: $35
Bulkheads: $50-$60
TrueTrack: $20-$25
Front arms: $10

Everything else on your truck will get you $10-$15 or so.
Servo, all stock driveshafts, shocks, pair of Diffs, 17mm adaptors.

Prices are all depending on condition. Nothing sales better
then parts in great condition.

Justinbolin 06.25.2013 05:35 AM

Is that a Traxxas 2056 servo?
That servo has less then 50% of the oz/in of
torque you'd want for a 14lb Monster Truck.

If you do keep the truck let me know, I might have a decent
servo in amongst my gear, I would sale you for your truck.

Justinbolin 06.25.2013 07:03 AM

If you decide you want to pomp out your EMaxx, let me know. I have the gear you'd want up on eBay right now:
UE Spider 6 gear'd Diffs.
FLM combo bulks with ofna spider 8 gears.
Traxxas Cvds and center driveshafts.
I also have 3,4 Gorillamaxx G1 transmissions.

All you'd need is to track down a G2 chassis
and you'd have a pretty kickass EMaxx Truggy, like me.

- Justin

A RC Dude 06.25.2013 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justinbolin (Post 426985)
Chassis: $75-$90
Towers: $30
Wheels: $25-$40. (Tuff to predict)
Trans: $35
Bulkheads: $50-$60
TrueTrack: $20-$25
Front arms: $10

Everything else on your truck will get you $10-$15 or so.
Servo, all stock driveshafts, shocks, pair of Diffs, 17mm adaptors.

Prices are all depending on condition. Nothing sales better
then parts in great condition.

Thanks for the estimate and all the help. And Yesterday I cleaned the chassis with rubbing alcohol and brought the shine back into the parts.

If I get $300 out of it, I should be able to get a new D8T without losing any more than $30 verses the many more to convert it to a truggy. I could always list it, set a reserve, and see what it goes for and go from their.

el tomaso 07.02.2013 03:52 AM

I have had a couple of MT's(e-revo, twin force) with brushless setups and a Hyper ST Pro with castle 1518. I would take the truggy any day, it feels like a beast that must be tamed. Yet it goes where you want and doesnt flip over all the time. Cheaper too than a real good MT........

Thomas

A RC Dude 07.02.2013 10:46 AM

Thanks Thomas. My only concern is the ground clearance. My friends and I take them to a park with a waterfall and many rocks and roots on the ground. My friends slash 4x4 handles most of it, but my maxx can definitely go over the top of rocks better.

Either way, I have decided to sell the maxx when I get the chance and just put a decent reserve on it.

Overdriven 07.03.2013 12:51 AM

Of all the MT's out there and I've had just about everyone, the LST is the best IMO. Love the handling and it's very durable without much upgrades like the Maxx trucks do. Truggies are awesome though, I loved my 8ight-t 2.0 and it's handling. It was on the low side but it can definitely handle rougher terrain than a Slash 4x4. I wouldve kept it but I'm more of a MT fan and couldn't get it raised up enough to get a the "look" I wanted. I also didn't like the thought of bashing a brand new "race roller" and beating up its chassis so I sold it before I did anything to totally kill its value. The sacrifice in handling when going MT to get the look back was worth it, but I still would like to get another Truggy, wish I could've afforded to keep the Losi 8t 2.0 at the time and get the LST.

A RC Dude 07.03.2013 11:29 AM

Thank you for your opinion, I feel like I'm probably going to feel the same way.
It would be nice to have both to be honest, but that's not happening till I get out of school and get a real job at least. Then at that point i'll loose most of my RC time.
Who knows, if i come back to MT's, may a losi would be better anyway lol
My local hobbytown is talking a lot about moving locations to were they can fix an indoor (maybe outdoor too) track, hence another reason I kinda want a truggy and to keep my mini 8ight. The closest track right now is 1.5 hours away...


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