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Serum 10.13.2006 11:19 AM

FYI;

graphite elegance has got L profile cf..

How nice... LOL

That info procharged posted is also on the back of a metric ruler. always handy to have laying around on your DIY pit-table..

BrianG 10.13.2006 12:28 PM

I actually thought about using CF for the mount, but am leaning to Aluminum for its heat sinking properties. Otherwise, CF would be an ideal choice.

Just noticed the "graphite elegance" is down for vacation until Oct 1. Wait a minute, it's Oct 13 now...

squeeforever 10.13.2006 12:52 PM

Brian, If you have a Harbor Freight close by (you should), then they will have all the taps and drill bits you need. There cheap sets are like $10 and seem to work just fine. The T-handle is $hitty though...Thats not a problem if you have a good one though.

jhautz 10.13.2006 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG
Just noticed the "graphite elegance" is down for vacation until Oct 1. Wait a minute, it's Oct 13 now...

I actually called them last week cuz I was wondering the same thing. They told me they were going to stay closed until the end of October now. I guess he has some personal business that needs to be handled and its preculding him from running the webstore. So hang on a couple/few more weeks. He said they will be back soon.

BrianG 10.13.2006 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by squeeforever
Brian, If you have a Harbor Freight close by (you should), then they will have all the taps and drill bits you need. There cheap sets are like $10 and seem to work just fine. The T-handle is $hitty though...Thats not a problem if you have a good one though.

Actually, I just checked and it seems there is a HF store in DSM. I'll have to go check it out after work. The T-Handle I have is not great either - it's a "Great Plains" brand and I have to tighten it with vice grips to get it tight enough. It does work though.

As to the CF place; I did some more reading and it seems that the finish isn't going to be good enough. There is already some CF on the H8 and it's pretty nice, so I'd like to get some that matches that if at all possible. I'd only be using it for the Rx mount and maybe the ESC mount as well.

go4gold 10.13.2006 09:56 PM

The stuff from your lhs is probably junk not cheap just junk. You can find tap extractors at mcmaster carr along with relativly inexpensive taps. Most broken taps are from the hole being to small, the tap not started straight, or any bit of side load especially on small taps. If you have a drill press you can use that to help keep the pressure straight down without any side force. If you really need to keep the original piece of metal there are companies that do broken tap and drill removal without damage to the hole. i think most of them use a process called EDM. Mcmaster also has angle aluminumwith 3" walls and 1/4 "thick. I could not find any 5mm thick angle. Here is a part # to look at 8982K62. This tap is Nitride treated(for aluminum and other soft metals) 27175A512 It's 10.52. Not cheap but will last This one is uncoated for 5.83 8305A32

BrianG 10.13.2006 11:07 PM

The taps at my LHS are "Great Plains". Not sure if they are junk or not, but I tried again tonight and broke another one. I swear I don't know what's wrong! It's turning fine, being careful to go straight, and SNAP! It's like the taps are made of glass or something. I was able to do two holes and snapped on the third one. Nothing felt different between the three and I was using the drill that it came with. I consider myself a fairly mechanically-inclined type of guy - I just don't know what's happening.

Oh well, I'm tired of making new parts just to break a tap in it. I'll wait for the plastic stock I ordered from mcmaster and then simply drill 3/32" holes and then self-tap my 3mm screws in it. It'll probably be lighter anyway. I'll just use taps for thinner material from now on.

go4gold: Thanks for looking that stuff up, but I haven't even begun the motor mount yet. I think I'll be having Mike or someone mill that part. I'm VERY limited on room without doing more intense mods to move the center diff - which I don't want to do because I don't want extra holes all over the place. I'd like to make this look nice.

BrianG 10.16.2006 09:57 PM

I solved my whole tapping issue by using plastic instead. The stock came in and it works great. I drilled 3/32" holes and 3mm bolts self-tap right in nice and tight. Much lighter than the aluminum too - about 1/3 the weight.


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