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jollyjumper 01.05.2007 01:44 PM

hey, can you explain mig and tig welders.
i dont exactly know how they work.

sjcrss 01.05.2007 01:47 PM

I learned to weld on a stick welder, which is hard to master, even oxyacetalene welding ( gas welding), but it seems that MIG & TIG are the norm nowdays......I mean I can do them all, but for cleaner welds and ease of operation....Mig is the way to go, also Tig is very good as well. But we will have to see how the other person does.....but good luck doing it....

neweuser 01.05.2007 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jollyjumper
hey, can you explain mig and tig welders.
i dont exactly know how they work.

They are wirefed with gas, clean and able to weld smaller beads. I believe they use hydrogen to feed the wire, can't remember though, it has been some years for me. Do a google on them to get more info.

sjcrss 01.05.2007 01:53 PM

actually the mig welders I used....at least in high school and in the Navy....we used Argon gas....which the gas doesn't feed the wire....inside of the welder is a wire feeder...and what the gas does, is it sheilds the weld from contaminants, while you are laying down the bead....

jollyjumper 01.05.2007 01:54 PM

yeah, i always seem to forget google is here to help, hehe:005:
i used a half automatic once or twice, pretty darn cool to do.
is also with gas and wire.
thanks guys.

sjcrss 01.05.2007 01:58 PM

no problem, just glad to help...good luck with the venture

neweuser 01.05.2007 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjcrss
actually the mig welders I used....at least in high school and in the Navy....we used Argon gas....which the gas doesn't feed the wire....inside of the welder is a wire feeder...and what the gas does, is it shealds the weld from contaminants, while you are laying down the bead....

If you run out of the gas, the wire won't feed at all.

sjcrss 01.05.2007 02:03 PM

Newe.....that's true.....it's a built in feature.....but I havn't touched a welder since 1998, so things could have changed.....but you do have a valid point.....no gas.....to sheild the weld area...no wire feed.....

jollyjumper 01.05.2007 02:03 PM

the half automatic i used in the past was feeding wire with a motor.

neweuser 01.05.2007 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jollyjumper
the half automatic i used in the past was feeding wire with a motor.

It's both from my experience, but like you said sjcrss, it has been a long time! LOL, but from my experience, no gas, no feed. There is a spool that feeds the wire, but I think they work hand in hand.

Mike.L 01.05.2007 02:21 PM

also it depends on the material its made out of......example GPM leared that it isnt the best hoping up a 10+lbs truck..... RPM was my next upgrade and felt that they were enough to ceep my truck durable.

Procharged5.0 01.05.2007 03:24 PM

A MIG welder can be used without the gas. You change the wire from solid core to flux core and can weld like an arc welder but with greater precision.

Gas for MIG welding is typically ARGON or ARGON/CO2 depending on the material being welded.

The gas shield not only "shields" the weld bead from inputities but it reduces welding"spatter" dramatically as well. (Looks way better when you're done!)

jhautz 01.05.2007 08:56 PM

Just go to the yellow pages and find a welder. There are tons of them. If you can find a welder the does tool and die repair they will have the skill to weld the small pieces you are looking for. Those guys can lay down some really fine beads.

BrianG 01.05.2007 09:20 PM

You can use a TIG welder too can't you?

jollyjumper 01.06.2007 08:30 AM

my dad's work buddy can do stainless steel.
maybe that would work aswell.
just gotta search a little more for info.
how would SS compare to alu weight wise?
but anyway, thanks for all the assistance guys!


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