Oh yeah, but those are long discontinued too- the TXT-1 replaced the Juggernaut2, essentially the same with a new chassis, suspension and tweaked tranny etc. They are hard to come by but they do crop up on ebay quite frequently so thats the best place to find one. I fell in love with the Juggernaut when it was first released, but I couldnt afford it back then so I got a Madbull instead- big wheels and all that......

Yea, I to want one, but I'm not really interested in a used one. Only new and those aren't cheap.

Hmm, good luck finding one. Best bet is either a shelf queen (they do come up once in a while), or have a look on www.tamiyaclub.com - lots of enthusiasts with NIB models willing to trade/sell, but like you said it still wont be cheap.... hind sight is such a wonderful thing; If I had bought one about 6/7 years back it would be worth more than double to the right person these days.

When did the txt go discontinued?
You could still buy them a few weeks ago.
You can still buy the txt on tower.
Pretty sure mike can get it as well.

I kinda wanted a jug. I think the lunch box is cheapest though but I would have to look at the chassis and see if it is nice. Also if it uses two motors I'll have an esc and motors free soon.