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BrianG 04.18.2007 11:45 AM

I've never had any trouble getting tinned 12GA wire into the 4mm connections. Although, I twist the end tightly and then tin the wire just enough to get solder in between the wires so the result is no bigger than the original wire.

Procharged5.0 04.18.2007 11:49 AM

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Time for you guys to upgrade to 5.5 or 6mm connectors!

12g installs easily.

These are made by NEU by the way. I'm sure Mike can get them.

Serum 04.18.2007 11:58 AM

I doubt if neu made them, they are available from several other sources.

These plugs are not the way to go. they get loose from time to time, the material deforms. While the 4mm plugs use a spring kind of thing to keep in place, this is just solid metal (brass type of stuff, not known for its flexibility.)

While they might look nice and are good for static use.. they can't stand too much abuse. If you want a good plug, get powerpoles. they are great. Too bad Deans doesn't make a 3pole plug.. they should make their plugs about 1.3 times the size they now have. That would be great IMO.

Procharged5.0 04.18.2007 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Serum
I doubt if neu made them, they are available from several other sources.

These plugs are not the way to go. they get loose from time to time, the material deforms. While the 4mm plugs use a spring kind of thing to keep in place, this is just solid metal (brass type of stuff, not known for its flexibility.)

While they might look nice and are good for static use.. they can't stand too much abuse. If you want a good plug, get powerpoles. they are great. Too bad Deans doesn't make a 3pole plug.. they should make their plugs about 1.3 times the size they now have. That would be great IMO.

They are on the NEU website. They are a NEU product. However I can't guarantee that they manufactured them however.

Serum 04.18.2007 12:07 PM

I can guarantee you they are not.. :p

BrianG 04.18.2007 12:09 PM

A little off topic, but has anyone seen their lipos? They seem to have a decent discharge curve, even at 20C. Not sure how they compare in price to the top-of-the-line cells though as I'm too cheap. :)

Procharged5.0 04.18.2007 12:46 PM

OK Serum,

Why won't they take abuse? What do you define as abuse?

I have them. I also have 4mm's. The 6mm's look & fit very well IMO.

Share more of what your thinking................

Serum 04.18.2007 04:19 PM

Once you bend the plug in the socket it's loose.. as simple as that. I used the 5.5's which have more material around the contact thingies.

They fit very well.. Bend it and it's loose..

BrianG 04.18.2007 04:24 PM

The answer is simple: don't bend it and it won't get loose. :)

Procharged5.0 04.18.2007 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Serum
Once you bend the plug in the socket it's loose.. as simple as that. I used the 5.5's which have more material around the contact thingies.

They fit very well.. Bend it and it's loose..

Well they probably didn't design it with "Ham Fisted" RC Bashers in mind! :005:

JK. I've had no issues with mine yet. Maybe you got a bad batch (soft alloy).

Serum 04.18.2007 04:28 PM

Nope, i got mine from BK, and some from Mike, and Dafni had the very same problem with his. since these plugs I am not too keen on contacts without any form of spring.

Electric Dave 04.18.2007 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG
I've never had any trouble getting tinned 12GA wire into the 4mm connections. Although, I twist the end tightly and then tin the wire just enough to get solder in between the wires so the result is no bigger than the original wire.

Ok, leaving aside all the big wire in small hole jokes, I wonder if the size of the hole on the 4mm connector differs from brand to brand...which one's are you using because I seriously could not fit the 12GA Deans wet noodle wire in there with no solder...please advise which brand (and PN if you have it) 4mm connector you are using.

DM

BrianG 04.18.2007 05:50 PM

I know I have used Deans wire and the 4mm connector that comes with the MM system. I've also done it with another brand connector, but don't know the name. Sorry I couldn't be more descriptive, but I usually throw away the package once I dump the connectors in my connector tray...

Procharged5.0 04.18.2007 06:21 PM

If I can remember to do so, I'll briong in my 4mm connectors. I have a couple new bags of them. I can measure the I.D. of the wire insertion point.

(that sounds way to technical...sorry, I'm in an engineering mindset. Been pouring over tech specs & blueprints for 3 days straight!) :dft002: :confused: :024:

rchippie 04.18.2007 09:21 PM

I have some 3.5 or 4mm plugs that i got from FD. I belive they are shulze plugs, the ends (shocket) are bigger than other plugs . I just stripped a 1/4 inch of deans wet noodle wire & it slid right into the plug with no problem..


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