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crazyjr 08.31.2007 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 115896)
You can change this by reducing the throttle EPA and increasing the reverse EPA. Of course, the trigger throw doesn't change, but the signal would be more equal. Would need to have the ESC reprogrammed though.

The traxxas radio's don't have the epa adjustments, I'm not worried I think i'll leave it alone for a bit

BrianG 08.31.2007 04:01 PM

Yeah, but isn't there a 70/30 and 50/50 switch?

lutach 08.31.2007 04:25 PM

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Just came back from running the truck with the MGM 16016-3S. The MGM is silky smooth. I only have to change the brake delay and the freewheel. It took a good second or so for the brakes to kick in. I ran a little over 5 minutes as well. The only thing I noticed is right where the power wires connect to the ESC, it ripped the shrink wrap. I also noticed that the motor got really hot. The batteries were just warm and so was the ESC. I put the batteries on the charger right now and it showed 11.41V. The data shows that the MGM was a little more efficient than the MM. Next I will try the Schulze future-18.97KWF.

crazyjr 08.31.2007 05:43 PM

How did you get 167 amps? If thats a Mr constructor truck, Does it have a center diff? or, is it like the TC3 (spur towards the rear)?

lutach 08.31.2007 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyjr (Post 115916)
How did you get 167 amps? If thats a Mr constructor truck, Does it have a center diff? or, is it like the TC3 (spur towards the rear)?

That is a Mr. Constructor truck and the spur is a lot like the TC3 in the rear, but Mr. C put a slipper clutch there as well. Awesome truck. Here are 2 videos of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6duAnWLQlJY (Forgot the crystal LOL)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpe_frO--Vw (That's my daughter playing soccer with her uncle, she's a ball hugger LOL)

The 167A are just spikes from full throttle. The batteries that I'm using are amazing. They are 25C rated and can handle 30C without a sweet and 50C bursts. I know it is similar to TP and FP, but with a big difference, they don't puff. They run cooler and deliver the power much better. I will be getting the 5000mAh packs hopefully by Wed.

nativepaul 08.31.2007 06:47 PM

what cells are those?

crazyjr 08.31.2007 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by lutach (Post 115918)
That is a Mr. Constructor truck and the spur is a lot like the TC3 in the rear, but Mr. C put a slipper clutch there as well. Awesome truck.

Thats what i figured. I got mine in a Kyosho twinforce with a 2250 and 19/51 gearing, Even with 6s i can't get more than 124 amps with a center diff

lutach 08.31.2007 07:40 PM

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The Schulze future-18.97KWF ran awful. Only 9 seconds and it stopped. Lets just say it has a little heating issue. One good thing I should mention, it is as smooth as the MGM on start ups.

cemetery gates 08.31.2007 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyjr (Post 115934)
Thats what i figured. I got mine in a Kyosho twinforce with a 2250 and 19/51 gearing, Even with 6s i can't get more than 124 amps with a center diff

Are you using the eagletree? I too have not been able to go beyond 124 amps with the eagle tree, IIRC it is only rated for 100 amps. I don't think that lutach is using an eagletree but some other power analyzer....


Bye

lutach 08.31.2007 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cemetery gates (Post 115946)
Are you using the eagletree? I too have not been able to go beyond 124 amps with the eagle tree, IIRC it is only rated for 100 amps. I don't think that lutach is using an eagletree but some other power analyzer....


Bye

I'm using a BNB Products DPR-II-150. It is rated for 150, but it's reading beyond that all the time. Blaine from BNB also said, "The best way to measure high current is to add a calibrated shunt across the DPR's current sensor." Which I have no idea what it means.

crazyjr 08.31.2007 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cemetery gates (Post 115946)
Are you using the eagletree? I too have not been able to go beyond 124 amps with the eagle tree, IIRC it is only rated for 100 amps. I don't think that lutach is using an eagletree but some other power analyzer....


Bye

Yeah, a micro model

BrianG 09.01.2007 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by lutach (Post 115948)
I'm using a BNP Products DPR-II-150. It is rated for 150, but it's reading beyond that all the time. Blaine from BNP also said, "The best way to measure high current is to add a calibrated shunt across the DPR's current sensor." Which I have no idea what it means.

What exactly is a DPR-II-150? Any links?

A shunt is simply a very low and very precise resistor placed in series between the source and the load. Usually looks like a thick wire. When current flows through it, a small voltage drop is generated, which can be measured with a simple voltmeter. The trouble is selecting the right size shunt value so that you can get a good reading, yet small enough not to suck up too much of your voltage. And then there is the power dissipation factor. I wouldn't want to drop more than 0.1v at 200A. Even at 0.1v and 200A, the shunt would have to be rated for at least 20w.

BTW: Eagletree does make an add-on sensor that measures up to 300A, but isn't explicitly said to be compatible with the micro e-logger. IIRC, it is for the other recorder unit.

lutach 09.01.2007 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 115971)
What exactly is a DPR-II-150? Any links?

A shunt is simply a very low and very precise resistor placed in series between the source and the load. Usually looks like a thick wire. When current flows through it, a small voltage drop is generated, which can be measured with a simple voltmeter. The trouble is selecting the right size shunt value so that you can get a good reading, yet small enough not to suck up too much of your voltage. And then there is the power dissipation factor. I wouldn't want to drop more than 0.1v at 200A. Even at 0.1v and 200A, the shunt would have to be rated for at least 20w.

BTW: Eagletree does make an add-on sensor that measures up to 300A, but isn't explicitly said to be compatible with the micro e-logger. IIRC, it is for the other recorder unit.

Brian,

It is BNB Products, I typed BNP. Here is the link: http://www.bnbproducts.com/

I have to admit, I was a little scared trying my Schulze 18.97KWF. Good thing it only thermaled. I reset it and it is working fine.

BrianG 09.01.2007 01:29 AM

lol, no wonder I couldn't find it! Judging by how it's built, it looks like adding a shunt across the solder points of the red wires should work. Although, you'd have to know the value of the existing shunt so that you calculate the total resistance (both shunts would be in parallel). The easiest way to do this would be to find out what the existing one is and get another one (maybe even from BNB?). Then, all you'd have to do is mentally multiply whatever reading you get by two to get the real current.

lutach 09.01.2007 01:37 AM

I see. Man I wish I had gone to Electronic Engineering School.


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