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DRIFT_BUGGY 07.04.2008 02:52 AM

Tower also put the price up on the Sidewinder kits. Tower use to only sell them at $132.99 and now have them listed at $144.99
Tower also has the Conversion Kits listed on their site to http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13293

captain harlock 07.04.2008 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRIFT_BUGGY (Post 188009)
Wheres Chaina?

The "Castle Neu" motors will be build in Castle's Chinese facility, under license from Steve Neu, and we are currently waiting on magnets to arrive from our magnet supplier in China to build the final prototypes and get the production line started. The "Authentic Neu" motors are built in Steve Neu's facility in San Diego. The differences between the motors were mostly to make the CC motor better suited for RC car use -- the "Authentic" Neu motors were designed for airplane and heli use originally, which calls for lightest possible weight.

#1: Authentic Neu motors have carbon fiber wound rotors, the Castle Neu motors will not have a carbon wound rotor. (We tried, but Carbon Fiber is so rare right now we just couldn't procure enough carbon for production... but we have found in testing that the carbon wound rotors aren't significantly stronger, they just protect the stator better when the rotor fails, so we decided to move forward without a carbon wound rotor.)
#2: Castle Neu motors have a completely different case, which is better suited to RC car use (better seals on front and rear bearings, more heat sink area, heavier and stiffer construction.)
#3: Castle Neu motors have larger front bearings to handle RC car loads better than the Neu motors
#4: Castle Neu motors have high flex 10ga silicone wires exiting the case, instead of winding wires (better suited to very high vibration environments.)

Thanx!

Patrick

It's the one without the extra "a" I've added. Hehe! ;P

captain harlock 07.04.2008 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagger Thrasher (Post 188000)
That's cool, sorry if I came over like I was saying you're definitely wrong. I might be wrong! :smile:

No hard feelings, my friend. Just making myself clear. :whistle:

petewalford17 07.04.2008 04:36 PM

look at this



https://www.tanicpacks.com/images//6...123-in-car.gif:gasp:

big greg 07.04.2008 04:48 PM

ooo i want one! that motor looks cool in the green color

DRIFT_BUGGY 07.04.2008 05:11 PM

Pretty sure that photo was taken at RCX

TruckBasher 07.04.2008 08:25 PM

I dont think it was RCX photo thou it is the same motor shown by CC/Traxxas on their booth, I might be wrong. But I think this is how the CC Neu Motor would look like.

This Photo is for the 6S EMAXX pack of Tanic, it just feature the MMM nd CC Neu motor. I think Tanic and CC have some arrangement..CC advertise Tanic packs over their website also...

BTW, these are the packs I just ordered, cant wait to try them. I just hope MM would hold until my MMM arrives

Serum 07.05.2008 03:13 AM

Those batteries are not quite up the task for the used amount of current.. Even in 3P it wouldn't be sufficient.

tc3_racer_001 07.05.2008 07:59 AM

2p would be sufficient at that voltage wouldnt it???

TruckBasher 07.05.2008 08:23 AM

Well, Im no expert and not an RC god so I wouldn't exactly know what amount of current needs to be drawn from battery to consider it good/better. But I know that A123 has lower current draw rating than Lipo but better than NiMH. Also this things are not like Lipo that explodes and needs LVC or their goners. I think I favor more on being safe than just a few more current draw rating with the trade off of extra care. Besides 5S2P is enough to power my EMAXX for 20-30mins and still do wheelie on demand...top speed of 35-40mph is also easily achieve

But I could be wrong...maybe others with more experience can answer you :neutral:

tc3_racer_001 07.05.2008 07:02 PM

well truck basher they are my thoughts exactly. except im running 4s2p in a buggy (well, hopefully) and some people are getting away with 6s1p! i might bump it up 2 5s2p (have 4 seperate unused batts) if its not fast enough just to try it. but 10 batteries is 700g!

Sammus 07.05.2008 11:43 PM

how is 6s2p not enough current? they are rated at over 60C burst, for 4600mah thats 276A peak draw, at 19.8V thats nearly 5.5kw... more than enough for any RC car I think.

I run 7s1p in my e-revo and it has more than ample power on tap, runtimes are usually only 10-15min though, which isnt really too bad.

Serum 07.06.2008 04:18 AM

6s1p is an option, but not with a 15151Y.. That motor can easily draw 170A at 6S..

You can do 6S for a HV setup, but with a 2200Kv motor you are not aiming at a HV setup, you are aiming for a powerhungry, hard to please, beast.. these cells give a huge drop in voltage, at 30-40A load.

Serum 07.06.2008 04:19 AM

@sammus; their voltage isn't exactly 19.8V at 276A... More like <2V.. and that's the whole point. Try a 6S enerland based 5000pack in your revo and your powerband will be even better.

Sammus 07.06.2008 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Serum (Post 188709)
@sammus; their voltage isn't exactly 19.8V at 276A... More like <2V.. and that's the whole point. Try a 6S enerland based 5000pack in your revo and your powerband will be even better.

Yeah fair call... I remember now, I wanted to do that but couldn't afford it :P plus the 15min charges with a123 pretty much closed the deal for me. I'm happy with what I have, and a 6s enerland pack would be heaps better. but 7 a123 cells = $105, and the cheapest 6s 5000mah enerland based pack i can find is $236.

TruckBasher 07.06.2008 05:25 AM

Well same here, the value for money fast charging and less prone to over/charge discharge... but there is no argument that 6S 5000mAh is better...but I'm cool with A123s...beside I dont race just bash around :lol::lol::lol:

Sammus 07.06.2008 09:50 AM

Yeah and I totally forgot about the voltage drop thing... say they even halve in voltage, you would still have say 2.7kw = 3.6hp peak which is what the big nitro motors put out.. so its probably still acceptable I guess :P

azjc 07.06.2008 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sammus (Post 188715)
Yeah fair call... I remember now, I wanted to do that but couldn't afford it :P plus the 15min charges with a123 pretty much closed the deal for me. I'm happy with what I have, and a 6s enerland pack would be heaps better. but 7 a123 cells = $105, and the cheapest 6s 5000mah enerland based pack i can find is $236.

do you have a link to the $236 enerland 6s 5000 pack?

azjc 07.06.2008 11:03 AM

I just recently bought a Zippy 6s 4150 pack that was $130 shipped, the R packs are thier only packs that are made from Korean made cells...so I will se how it compares to my FP.

Sammus 07.06.2008 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azjc (Post 188744)
do you have a link to the $236 enerland 6s 5000 pack?

Quote:

Originally Posted by azjc (Post 188746)
I just recently bought a Zippy 6s 4150 pack that was $130 shipped, the R packs are thier only packs that are made from Korean made cells...so I will se how it compares to my FP.


Doesn't sound like you need a link ;)

gixxer 07.06.2008 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azjc (Post 188746)
I just recently bought a Zippy 6s 4150 pack that was $130 shipped, the R packs are thier only packs that are made from Korean made cells...so I will se how it compares to my FP.

I ordered 2 of there 3s packs for my e-revo. Hoping to have them tuesday or wednesday. From what I here the zippy packs are suppose to be very good bang for the buck.

starscream 07.07.2008 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MTBikerTim (Post 187420)
I have a $60 voucher here. it's very tempting

Where did you come by a $60 voucher?

MTBikerTim 07.07.2008 02:41 AM

The $60 voucher was for international orders over $300. I was tempted to pre-order but I didn't.

Arct1k 07.07.2008 11:46 AM

Combo is now showing as late August!

BL_RV0 07.07.2008 11:52 AM

Yeah- that sucks. I really hope the V2 ESC's come out sooner.

DRIFT_BUGGY 07.07.2008 06:05 PM

Not sure if these codes work for everyone

http://i27.tinypic.com/67tfeh.jpg

Pdelcast 07.08.2008 10:13 PM

Oh boy -- I gotta jump in here...

First of all, the Castle Neu motors are not yet in production -- we are still hammering out some production issues (mostly magnet procurement...)

Second, the Castle Neu motor is hand wound. I don't believe you can machine wind the Neu design (it's an internal wind -- can't be wound on a fly winder.)

Third, it does run at pretty much the same efficiency as the original Neu -- it is exactly the same design, except for the carbon winding on the rotor, and case and bearings (heavier case, larger bearings.)

Thanx!

Patrick

TruckBasher 07.08.2008 10:26 PM

Wow nice to hear that Patrick....I think it will be worth the wait....but how come Towerhobbies is preordering it at a much lower price? is it really cheaper that original Neu?

Pdelcast 07.08.2008 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruckBasher (Post 189641)
Wow nice to hear that Patrick....I think it will be worth the wait....but how come Towerhobbies is preordering it at a much lower price? is it really cheaper that original Neu?

I think the combo price is $349.95 with a MMM (retail.)

TruckBasher 07.08.2008 10:53 PM

Thanks Patrick....I might just wait for Mike to put it up on RCM...

Jeff Crosson 07.08.2008 11:04 PM

Is there only going to be a 2200 kv combo, or are you going to have more options, like in the 1300-1600 kv range for 6S lipo?

Pdelcast 07.09.2008 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Crosson (Post 189650)
Is there only going to be a 2200 kv combo, or are you going to have more options, like in the 1300-1600 kv range for 6S lipo?

The first two motors will be 2200Kv (1515/1Y) and 2600Kv (1512/1Y)

We will add additional motors later.

gixxer 07.09.2008 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 189851)
The first two motors will be 2200Kv (1515/1Y) and 2600Kv (1512/1Y)

We will add additional motors later.

great to hear. I am running 6s and well the 1y would be a little overkill. :lol: actually the 3d on 6s seems to be very nice.

RBMike 07.09.2008 01:48 PM

Patrick, Any update on when we will see our replced/repaired Monsters? Another question: Will those first 2 motors be released at the same time?

Thanks
Mike

captain harlock 07.10.2008 12:35 AM

Patrick, may I know the differences between the first and second productions of the Mamba Monster?

Also, what about the HV version?

lincpimp 07.10.2008 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 189642)
I think the combo price is $349.95 with a MMM (retail.)

You are the man Patrick!! Do you stay awake at night wondering what other brushless esc mfgs are thinking? You guys at CC are getting so far ahead of everyone else, you really lack decent competition... Not that I care, I am more than happy to stick with CC products.

On a side note, are you guys doing anything with the cc36 motors? I heard some quiet rumors of those motors being revamped? Any info on that would be greatly appreciated! Maybe change the magnet to segmented, like a lehner/hacker c50 copy... Not as good as a neu, but seems like it would lend itself to mas production, as the windings can be done by machine, and the magnet could be too?

MTBikerTim 07.10.2008 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 190072)
You are the man Patrick!! Do you stay awake at night wondering what other brushless esc mfgs are thinking? You guys at CC are getting so far ahead of everyone else, you really lack decent competition... Not that I care, I am more than happy to stick with CC products.

On a side note, are you guys doing anything with the cc36 motors? I heard some quiet rumors of those motors being revamped? Any info on that would be greatly appreciated! Maybe change the magnet to segmented, like a lehner/hacker c50 copy... Not as good as a neu, but seems like it would lend itself to mas production, as the windings can be done by machine, and the magnet could be too?

Havn't the cc36 motors already been revamped. I though I read that the new ones were shipping with improved bearings and something else. I thought it was someone on this forum with pics of a new one with the slight differences.

DRIFT_BUGGY 07.10.2008 06:03 AM

Thanks for the update Patrick

DRIFT_BUGGY 07.17.2008 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 187413)

There is now a 2650kv motor combo
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXVJN3&P=SM

ogrfre01 07.17.2008 06:07 AM

I think there will be a CC/Neu motor (1512-size) in my L8 when they are released :mdr:


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