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JThiessen 09.27.2008 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 216805)
we do i just wouldnt think that lexan would be structurally sound..



plus i don think any place around here carries lexan

Its plenty strong - just a little on the heavy side. Any Lowes or Homedepot will carry it, and most hobby shops have smaller pieces. Another place to try is one of your local home window dealers. Call around and see if they have any scraps you can dig through - they might let you have it for free.

brushlessboy16 09.27.2008 09:48 PM

i think i have some in the garage, is it possible to fuse the corners somehow?


i remember my grandpa doing it, something with laquer thinner or acetate that fuses them together...

brushlessboy16 09.27.2008 10:10 PM

Well guys im possibly out for the night.. Just got back from a party, ended up playing manhunt, ran head to read with my friend mike (eovnu87435ds) both of us at full speed, my forehead to his temple.

I blacked out, his temple is swollen..


it was all in good fun- im going to go to sleep

brushlessboy16 09.28.2008 10:19 PM

whew, rough night but im back.


I think im going to have a shot at fabricating my own components.

motor mount will be out of 2x2x 1/8th aluminum angle, and battery tray will be from 1/8th kydex plastic, going to try to make a die out of wood to use as a form.

and use another peice of wood as the die to form it.


is aluminum sturdy enough to tap into, or should i use a nut and bolt

lincpimp 09.28.2008 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 217120)
whew, rough night but im back.


I think im going to have a shot at fabricating my own components.

motor mount will be out of 2x2x 1/8th aluminum angle, and battery tray will be from 1/8th kydex plastic, going to try to make a die out of wood to use as a form.

and use another peice of wood as the die to form it.


is aluminum sturdy enough to tap into, or should i use a nut and bolt


1/8 al is a bit thin. Go up to 1/4 or 5-6mm. Then you can drill and tap the edges. Kydex makes great trays. I like to use the velcro strap and cut slots in the sides to thread it thru.

brushlessboy16 09.28.2008 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 217143)
1/8 al is a bit thin. Go up to 1/4 or 5-6mm. Then you can drill and tap the edges. Kydex makes great trays. I like to use the velcro strap and cut slots in the sides to thread it thru.

The only reason i said 1/8 is because i have it right here, ill try and get thicker stuff.. if no will just drilling through and using a nut work?



how would i bond the corners of te kydex?

trev3813 09.28.2008 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 217145)
how would i bond the corners of te kydex?

Jb Weld?

lincpimp 09.29.2008 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 217145)
The only reason i said 1/8 is because i have it right here, ill try and get thicker stuff.. if no will just drilling through and using a nut work?



how would i bond the corners of te kydex?

I usually heat it and bend it, then just let it go. It is stiff enough not to need the corners or edges to be attached. I do use the velcro strap to hold the battery to the tray well, basically wrapped all the way arounf the tray and the pack. Never lost a pack, and I bash hard.

Not knowing your design, I cannot really comment on material thickness. Sketch it out and I will take a look. You cannot drill/tap the edge of 1/8 al easily and it will not be that strong.

brushlessboy16 09.29.2008 12:22 AM

whipping up a sketch now.

lincpimp 09.29.2008 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 217157)
whipping up a sketch now.

sketch:whip:=:lol:

Sorry had to do that!

brushlessboy16 09.29.2008 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 217163)
sketch:whip:=:lol:

Sorry had to do that!

thanks linc lol



this is what i had in mind

lincpimp 09.29.2008 12:58 AM

I am guessing you plan to form a L with 2 pieces. You can use the thinner 1/8 to bolt thru, but I would make the motor plate out of thicker al and drill/tap it so that you can bolt the L foot to it. That would require the use of countersunk screws as the heads would be on the chassis, and you want the lower plate flush. I would just buy so L angle al, that is what I used on the GTP...

brushlessboy16 09.29.2008 01:12 AM

you lost me. that is all one peice of 2x2 angle. bolted to the center brace and the chassis.

lincpimp 09.29.2008 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 217173)
you lost me. that is all one peice of 2x2 angle. bolted to the center brace and the chassis.

Ok, thought you were going to make an L out of 2 flat pieces...

That should be fine, have fun making it. Will you do it by hand, or do you have access to a machine?

brushlessboy16 09.29.2008 06:36 AM

by hand

JThiessen 09.29.2008 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 217197)
by hand

You need to figure out how to square it up too. If by chance you get a piece of AL Ang extrusion that is actually 90degrees, box it up, and bury it in the yard, cause its worth its weight in gold! Most of the time, the angle is less than 90, so you can shim under one edge to get it sit square. Best method is to find a piece that has been machined square.

JThiessen 09.29.2008 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 216923)
i think i have some in the garage, is it possible to fuse the corners somehow?


i remember my grandpa doing it, something with laquer thinner or acetate that fuses them together...

Why would you want to fuse the corners? Just bend it in a U shape. If you make it an inch or so longer than you need, you can also make a cut along the corner, then bend the remaining tab inwards.

Yes, there is a product that fuses lexan quite well (type 3 acrylic adhesive). Unfortunately, its fumes have been proven to be quite harmful to us humans and is therefore tough to get ahold of.

Like Linc said - Kydex will likely be easier for you to work with, and is plenty strong.

brushlessboy16 09.29.2008 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JThiessen (Post 217216)
You need to figure out how to square it up too. If by chance you get a piece of AL Ang extrusion that is actually 90degrees, box it up, and bury it in the yard, cause its worth its weight in gold! Most of the time, the angle is less than 90, so you can shim under one edge to get it sit square. Best method is to find a piece that has been machined square.


hahaha will do :lol:, shimming shouldnt be that hard- why not just bend the aluminum into the correct angle?. im wondering just how much flex there will be in the chassis with that composite center brace?:neutral:
Quote:

Originally Posted by JThiessen (Post 217217)
Why would you want to fuse the corners? Just bend it in a U shape. If you make it an inch or so longer than you need, you can also make a cut along the corner, then bend the remaining tab inwards.

Yes, there is a product that fuses lexan quite well (type 3 acrylic adhesive). Unfortunately, its fumes have been proven to be quite harmful to us humans and is therefore tough to get ahold of.

Like Linc said - Kydex will likely be easier for you to work with, and is plenty strong.

Alright, i would think that you would need bracing in the corners- -but then again you know better then i :D

brushlessboy16 09.29.2008 03:32 PM

email from mike:


Me: Hey mike, im getting a second hand Cen matrix TR FRE edition. im wondering what is the smallest and largest pinion i can use with a 66t spur and your mount. thanks

-ben



Mike:I don’t think there are many pinion options with the 62t spur – I made the mount with the 46t spur in mind (12-25t or so pinion range with the 46t spur). I would guess about 11-14t or less pinion range with the 62t spur.



Mike

RC-Monster



so thats out of the picture anyways.

Arct1k 09.29.2008 03:35 PM

I may have one...

http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...YOIF148&cat=40

brushlessboy16 09.29.2008 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 217280)

will pass on that, with the small spur i would need a 9t pinion to bring speed down to 45-47.... that wouldnt fit either, so i guess in going to make a custom one:yes:

brushlessboy16 09.29.2008 04:22 PM

how much pinion-to-spur flex would i be expecting without the mount tied into the CD and what are the effects of this?

brushlessboy16 09.29.2008 07:11 PM

So far i have on my list

12x12 .125 kydex sheet

m4 tap, and matching drill bit

90 Degree countersink

Some m4x10 countersunk screws

Some 4x10 button head screws, am i missing anything?

JThiessen 09.29.2008 08:26 PM

Unless metric are different from SAE, thats actually an 82 degree c'sink. How much do those run BTW. I just get them from work.

brushlessboy16 09.29.2008 08:36 PM

all metrics are 90 degree

im ordering all this stuff from McMaster.com



also added some 3/8x3/8 delrin blocks to mount the tray to the chassis, thanks mike :D

brushlessboy16 09.30.2008 02:02 PM

Good news, im at school now- just got acces to our cnc end mill :D:D:D

:yes:

so the motor mount will be machined instead of done by hand- maybe some custom odds and ends- we also have a cnc lathe




Cnc machine is:

Denford MicroRouter Compact

http://www.westwirralworks.co.uk/Res...il.asp?MacID=1

Takedown 09.30.2008 05:48 PM

Cen was shipped...:yes:

brushlessboy16 09.30.2008 06:04 PM

yayyyyyyyy!

mambarustler 10.01.2008 07:13 PM

Nice build ben, am looking forward to seein how it turns out

brushlessboy16 10.01.2008 07:55 PM

Just put the order in for:
Greatplanes 4.0mm tap and drill set
4x8mm countersunk screws
13t pinion
Red Aluminum Servo arm
Some Axial Battery straps
Antenna mount
90 degree countersink


truck should be here tommorow or friday

everything else monday or tuesday

brushlessboy16 10.02.2008 04:55 PM

no truck today :no: but i did get a set of Hyper st Mud guards (thank jhautz for inspiration) to keep some of the dirt out. along with a set of new crystals for my radio- brought temps down considerably- now they hover around 120 degrees.. :lol:

Takedown 10.02.2008 05:38 PM

Should be their soon...

brushlessboy16 10.03.2008 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Takedown (Post 218515)
Should be their soon...

not today either...

trev3813 10.03.2008 06:50 PM

Soon, The wait is part of the glory young grasshopper

brushlessboy16 10.03.2008 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by trev3813 (Post 218947)
Soon, The wait is part of the glory young grasshopper

and a kick in the face ain't:lol:

trev3813 10.03.2008 09:13 PM

I'll kick ya in the face :mdr:

BL_RV0 10.03.2008 09:50 PM

I'll kick both of you in the face.

brushlessboy16 10.03.2008 10:00 PM

10 bux says that neither of you can reach that high.

BL_RV0 10.03.2008 10:18 PM

How tall are you?

trev3813 10.03.2008 10:21 PM

like 8 feet


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