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lincpimp 01.20.2009 11:43 AM

I have had very good use out of my 12c 3600mah polyquest cells. Still use them in my supervee boat, 8 cells in a 2s2p config for 4s 7200 mah and around 86amp cont. Plenty for that boat as it only does about 3/4 hp so only needs around 40amps. My reserve does provide better punch though, and the weight does help the boat out, as it is designed to run 12nimh cells.

Now they are old tech, and just as big and heavy as a 5000 25c pack. I prefer the lightest pack I can get away with, as weight makes the biggest difference to vehicle performance.

johnrobholmes 01.20.2009 11:49 AM

That is what I have, the 10 and 12c poly 3600's. I throw them in my f-350 or twarg for hours and hours of playtime. In the pede they don't hold up so well. In the emaxx it is just plain sad.

BrianG 01.20.2009 12:04 PM

I like running a higher C rate battery because you are not pushing the cell to its limits. Therefore it will last longer. Not only that, but voltage is more steady.

The only time I use a low C rate battery is if I have high mAh to compensate and want runtime rather than reduced weight.

asheck 01.20.2009 12:57 PM

Ok,maybe Im looking at this the wrong way.But it seems by combining cells into a large capacity pack the c ratings must go down ,by design of the pack.Because of the increased runtime,and the cells sitting right on each other,you will get increased temps.So it would seem to me that combining the 2 you would have to drop the constant rating to make up for it.So if you used 20c 4000mah cells to make a 20c 8000mah pack,the pack would not actually be capable of that .As the pack itself would have to discharge at either twice the time,or twice the amps,either of which would cause more heat,in pack form.So to over come this they must drop the c rating some,to come up with an accurate pack rating.So because MA uses a single cell rating on there pack,the bigger the pack the further off there ratings became.Then a TRC 10c ,that alot claim are underated,Actually perform that good because to accurately make a 10c 8000mah pack,they use 15c cells,so it actually will do 80amps for 8000mah,but seems to perform better then that . This is just my theory, So please correct me where my thinking is askewed.

johnrobholmes 01.20.2009 02:57 PM

I personally don't like the low rate cells on my crawlers. I tend to run hot setups, and I have puffed many 12C 2100 packs. 25C 1300s are my favorite small pack, and 25C 2200s are my favorite larger pack on a crawler.

lincpimp 01.20.2009 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by johnrobholmes (Post 254058)
I personally don't like the low rate cells on my crawlers. I tend to run hot setups, and I have puffed many 12C 2100 packs. 25C 1300s are my favorite small pack, and 25C 2200s are my favorite larger pack on a crawler.

What i would like to see is a 4000mah 10c lipo in that is the same size as the maxamps old 2100 pack, or possibly smaller... Still good for 40 amps, but twice the runtime. Not sure if that is possible, but the newer chemistry may be able to do something like that.

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Originally Posted by E-Revonut (Post 254108)
Am I reading this right? Linc is still using MA packs? Even though your not stressing them I'm still surprised that your admitting to using them!

Yep, the 2100 cells are the only ones that have lasted. I will say that most of them are a mixture of good cells from other packs that puffed, and they go way out of balance even on a crawler. But they were basically free and they fit all of my crawlers really well.

Did I mention they were almost free? I have maybe 80 bucks in 15 2100 cells, and i may have a spare cell or two laying around... 5 bucks a cell is cheap, considering what they sell for new...

If I replace them I have some fp 2170 3s packs that will be used. About the same size and twice as powerful.

E-Revonut 02.02.2009 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kcaz25 (Post 257975)
(#29)
Unsullied_Spy



They've had the option to have the hard shell shrunk into the pack for awhile now.

E-Revohut (#47)

What?? Explain. I talked to Jason via chat tech support for three hours off and on once. As well as watched one of his youtube videos. He is an extremely nice guy.

Jason just stopped responding to my e-mails. Trying to get packs replaced that kept going WAY out of balance, he told me my setup was drawing to many amps. Packs in question where 2s 6000mah 20C. Should have been able to withstand 120A continuos and 180A bursts. Using BrianG's calc and some common sense told me I wasn't near that. If I could get 20 minutes out of a 6000mah pack my continuous was less than 20A and BrianG's calc estimated bursts 140A bursts. Alex wound up taking care of me, he replaced the packs with something that should hold up a bit better.

slimthelineman 02.02.2009 08:07 PM

ive been running a 6s 4000 from them for a while now, makes me crazy to get it to hold ballance. sometimes i have to charge one of the cells independantly. a cell went bad and i got another one at cost...... $30. not to mention i paid $239 for it a year ago and its now $299 for the same friggin pack

JERRY2KONE 02.02.2009 08:32 PM

Considering.
 
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Originally Posted by slimthelineman (Post 258056)
ive been running a 6s 4000 from them for a while now, makes me crazy to get it to hold ballance. sometimes i have to charge one of the cells independantly. a cell went bad and i got another one at cost...... $30. not to mention i paid $239 for it a year ago and its now $299 for the same friggin pack

Yea considering the purchase price of some of the other manufacturers packs of the same or better size dealing with Maxamps is no longer neccessary. There are better rated packs for half what Maxamps charges, and problems with these packs seems to be much less of an issue from what we have been reading on most of the R/C sites. Maxamps is loosing ground quickly in competitive pricing, customer service reputation, dependability, and cost effectiveness. I have Maxamps packs myself, but due to the pricing issues alone with the poor economy it is just not worth bothering with them any longer. They need to work on their product, their customer services, and lower their prices if they want to survive, and keep our business.

slimthelineman 02.02.2009 09:37 PM

i recently purchased some neu 6s 3200 25/50c packs and they run strong, and STAY balanced. plus i got two for the price of one MA 4000 and they are 70g lighter. less capacity but i use about 1000mah in 8 mins. so i can run two 5-7min quals. with one pack or a 15 min. main

entjoles 02.02.2009 10:11 PM

i have always had a hard time keeping the cells balanced as well , so much for matching cells.......

anyway i needed one cell once , bad pack and wanted to rebuild, and was told that i couldnt just put one cell in because the cells are matched and it wont stay balanced......it never did from the get go , but the pack is going strong, as long as i dont discharge below 3.3vpc


they have some new hard case packs coming out from what i here , but for the price i will look elsewhere for packs , imho


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