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crazyjr 04.11.2009 03:49 AM

personally, i'd like to have seen a 3500kv or lower(maybe 3000kv), but 4000kv beats the high winding motors that dominate the mini world

Getter Robo 04.11.2009 08:20 AM

A <3000kV would work with 4S, I hope the motors I'm having in mind will fit :D

jhautz 04.12.2009 02:03 PM

How big are the battery compartments on these things? Anyone have any idea on what size pack can fit? Just curious if I already have something that would fit or I would need to by something specifically for this.

NoControl 04.12.2009 02:57 PM

Keep in mind that if you do already have some packs that would fit it, that they either need to have the trx hc connector or youd have to modify one or the other plugs. As far as battery packs go though I think anything close to a 6s NiMH pack would work since thats what the traxxas pack looks like. Still think it'd be cool to get one and toss in a CCMS9000 if it would fit, may have to get one of these and try it out. :intello:

rschoi_75 04.12.2009 03:00 PM

4000 should be fine for 2s-3s lipos. I agree that they made a good choice in not going crazy with the kv ratings. I'm definitely excited to see these things in action.

squeeforever 04.12.2009 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rschoi_75 (Post 278751)
4000 should be fine for 2s-3s lipos. I agree that they made a good choice in not going crazy with the kv ratings. I'm definitely excited to see these things in action.

Theres a video in one of the threads about them.

jhautz 04.12.2009 03:07 PM

There is no way this thing takes full size sub c stick packs. It's gotta be the small onse like the rc18 takes.

Plugs don't mean anything to me. I changes everything to deans before I even plug it in. Just wondering if anyone has seen anything with more battery compartment size info.

Metallover 04.12.2009 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoControl (Post 278749)
Keep in mind that if you do already have some packs that would fit it, that they either need to have the trx hc connector or youd have to modify one or the other plugs. As far as battery packs go though I think anything close to a 6s NiMH pack would work since thats what the traxxas pack looks like. Still think it'd be cool to get one and toss in a CCMS9000 if it would fit, may have to get one of these and try it out. :intello:

You kind of got your theories wrong. The 9000kv motor is by no means a really fast motor. One reason is because it's a castle motors and they don't quite compare to a medusa motor. Another reason will be that it won't be efficient because of the maissive Rpms and it will run very hot. The 9000kv motor would be good for 4 cell nimh 10th scale touring cars if it would fit, but there are much better choices for anything else. The motor will not fit at least stock because the 16th scale revo will take 28mm 370-400 canned motors and the 9000 is a 540/36mm motor. So instead of buying a 9000kv motor, get a medusa. They have about the right kv.

skellyo 04.12.2009 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 278754)
Just wondering if anyone has seen anything with more battery compartment size info.

I haven't seen any solid info anywhere, but it looks like a 2/3A shotgun style pack to me. If that's the case, the Trakpower 2S 1600mAh pack should fit with ease...maybe even the 3S pack.

Metallover 04.12.2009 05:39 PM

What are the price comparisons with the trackpower 1600 and flightpower 1600? I know they are the same cells, so the cheaper one is the one to get.

crazyjr 04.12.2009 09:52 PM

http://www.traxxas.com/products/elec...7108_specs.htm
scroll down to the esc specs, for a 3s MINI esc, its got nice specs

Unsullied_Spy 04.12.2009 09:56 PM

Yeah, but they rated the VXL to 200A for the Rustlers and there's no chance of it maintaining 200A. They rate it off the FETs, I think.

Always Dreamin 04.12.2009 09:57 PM

I'm sure the battery compartments are a similar size to the rc18 batteries... however, it comes with a 1600 mah pack (i believe) and the rc18 is only 1100. Which is a good sign... Good for the Bl-revo, it can hold two of those. which means you can run 3s 1300 (around there) in series for 2600 mah and massive runtimes. the speeds should be quite good too!

Unsullied_Spy 04.12.2009 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Always Dreamin (Post 278827)
which means you can run 3s 1300 (around there) in series for 2600 mah and massive runtimes. the speeds should be quite good too!

Parallel :wink:

Always Dreamin 04.12.2009 10:54 PM

Uhh, ya that's what i meant :lol:

lincpimp 04.12.2009 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Always Dreamin (Post 278827)
I'm sure the battery compartments are a similar size to the rc18 batteries... however, it comes with a 1600 mah pack (i believe) and the rc18 is only 1100. Which is a good sign... Good for the Bl-revo, it can hold two of those. which means you can run 3s 1300 (around there) in series for 2600 mah and massive runtimes. the speeds should be quite good too!

I happen to have a pair of 2200 2s lipos that are about the same size as a 6 cell 2/3a packs... Run those in parallel for 4400mah! 30mph is plenty for me in a vehicle this size, so imagine the run time with 4400 mah.

Metallover 04.12.2009 11:17 PM

you can get a hell of a lot out of 2s lipo. In our vendettas we run a 2s 1600 flightpower packs and we get all the speed you'll ever need. That's with a neu 1105/07. You get 40-60mph and can flip it over on damand. I've got videos...:diablo:

FyrFytr998 04.13.2009 07:13 PM

First Post.

Here you go fella's. Straight from Traxxas!!

Hello,

The battery compartment is 35.5 mm deep by 101.90mm long and 20.30mm high.


Best regards,
Stephen Lindholm,
TRAXXAS Customer Service


I would like to personally thank Stespen Lindholm for the hook up!!

skellyo 04.13.2009 07:59 PM

Amainhobbies.com has them listed for pre-order now:

Slash $279.99
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ucts_id/138921

E-Revo $294.99
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/34422

Metallover 04.13.2009 09:48 PM

I want an e-revo roller. I don't want to use the stock electronics... Do you think ebay sellers will sell the me-revo as a roller?

Thanks for the info guys. Keep it coming. Those 2200 cells will be tight.... On hobbycity it ranges from 100-105mm long. Anyone have some 2200 packs they want to post the measurements of?

FyrFytr998 04.13.2009 09:58 PM

This seems the best bang for the buck right now. Barring any specialty cells that will be made in the future should these things sell like hot cakes.

3s 20c 11.1v wired in parallel for 3200mah. Winner winner chicken dinner!:party:

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idproduct=6539

For Nimh's this seems the highest capacity so far for 2/3a

http://cgi.ebay.com/INTELLECT-7.2V-1...QQcmdZViewItem

jnev 04.13.2009 10:05 PM

Big time winners! Nice find FyrFytr! Looks like they'll fit perfectly. :party: And they only cost $15! Really impressed. :yes: Time to find something to sell to pick up a Mini E-Revo...

FyrFytr998 04.13.2009 10:12 PM

The only thing I would watch for is that sometimes Hobby Kings measurements aren't all that accurate. But if they are, oooooooooh baby!!:intello:

crazyjr 04.14.2009 09:42 AM

I know the bigger Quark esc's can handle 5 and 6s (supposedly), Can the 22 or 33 amp quark pro car handle 5 or 6s? Not going for max speeds, just looking at the lowkv hi-volt angle. if not the quark, what mini sized esc could do 6s tops?

lincpimp 04.14.2009 11:27 AM

Just in case anyone care it appears that HC is getting most of the zippys back in stock. And the hardcase packs have info saying that the soldering has been improved.

Plus they have some cool HV boat escs... And Prog cards that seem to be universal for all of the turnigy escs. Just bought one of those so we will see!

Metallover 04.14.2009 10:14 PM

Linc did you ever get those air controllers for your baja?

BP-Revo 04.14.2009 10:19 PM

Sucks, I wish the battery compartments were just slightly larger. If they were 110mm long, it would increase the amount of battery options to a whole host including many of the FlightPowers.

FyrFytr998 04.14.2009 10:19 PM

Yeah if anyone has any experience with high capacity mini scale ESC's. Then now would be the time to chime in.:smile:

It's really funny hearing some people talk about installing 540 sized motors and what not around the various boards. The new mini revo backflips on the stock system by itself on Nimhs!!

There IS such a thing as overkill you know.:whistle:

Now a non stock ESC size appropriate ESC with top end programming features? That's what I'm looking for most. Given the Slash's immense popularity. The minis just open the door for a new indoor class during those cold winter months.

BP-Revo 04.14.2009 10:48 PM

I'm just going to run what is in there. Two 3S Lipo's in parallel should be more than plenty.

Given what this thing does on 12 NiMH cells (I doubt it backflips on the one included pack), 3S should be plenty powerful since it'll hold much more voltage than those little 2/3A cells could ever do, and then this way there is way more capacity (and current capability, meaning voltage will drop less).

It'll also allow me to run it in water. This is probably one of the few trucks I will leave very stock, except for turning those turnbuckles and what not into the optional aluminum Traxxas ones. I can't stand the red plastic. Makes it look partly radioshack built.

Unsullied_Spy 04.14.2009 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BP-Revo (Post 279320)
It'll also allow me to run it in water. This is probably one of the few trucks I will leave very stock, except for turning those turnbuckles and what not into the optional aluminum Traxxas ones. I can't stand the red plastic. Makes it look partly radioshack built.

No kidding! I saw the teaser pics of it and thought those ugly turnbuckles were just some pre-production thing and they would be prettied up for the final release, then I saw a production one. I can't understand what must have been going through their minds to make those like that, it really does look like something you get out of VerizonShack err, RadioShack.

BlackedOutREVO 04.14.2009 11:07 PM

They were probably just trying to keep cost down. I think some black rit dye will cure it!

Haha, everyone knows I MUST have a mini revo!

blueb8llz 04.15.2009 12:44 AM

[QUOTE=FyrFytr998;279087]This seems the best bang for the buck right now. Barring any specialty cells that will be made in the future should these things sell like hot cakes.

3s 20c 11.1v wired in parallel for 3200mah. Winner winner chicken dinner!:party:

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idproduct=6539

thats going to be a very tite fit, height wise. theres only like .3 cm room to spare. any kind of swelling and then there will be a problem.

BlackedOutREVO 04.15.2009 02:14 AM

So I wonder when the RPM true track jr comes out?

Or Some PL bodies? Wings? Tires I think will just be 10th scale buggy tires. So I have plenty of those!

I think everyone is going to have one of these just because of how cheap it is! Haha its hard not to buy a little revo

crazyjr 04.15.2009 09:16 AM

Mine will stay stock, just long enough to get the parts for what i want. My plan is for a medusa 28mmx32mm 1500kv motor with a quark 33 amp pro-car with a 5s (3x2s) of polyrc 1500's

shizzon 04.15.2009 09:35 AM

i wonder how 1/8th scale buggy badlands will look on the mini E-revo?? ive never been fond of the talons, and i would think that buggy wheels/tires would be around the right diameter but not as wide.

Arct1k 04.15.2009 09:36 AM

Revo

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/34422

294 Amain - with coupons should be able to get for around 270

Slash is cheaper at 280 - with coupons should be able to get for around 255

skellyo 04.15.2009 10:25 AM

Better prices at Tower using coupon codes:

Slash:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LXWEP2**&P=7
$284.99
Sign up for super saver club here:
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$9.99
Use Coupon Code 011N6 for $50 off $250-299.99 order

$284.99 + $9.99 - $50 = $244.98 shipped free

E-Revo:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LXWEP1**&P=7
$289.99
Sign up for super saver club from above link, if not already a member.
Use Coupon Code 011N6 for $50 off $250-299.99 order

$289.99 + $9.99 - $50 = $249.98

Or but the super saver membership with one and you don't need to buy it again with the other and save $9.99 more.

I pre-ordered both of them this morning. It's a backup for if my LHS has a hard time getting them in quickly when they're released or if they can't meet me somewhere in the middle on price. They should be able to hook me up though. They got me my Savage Flux for $589 and my Summit for $450 since I bought them both at the same time.

Pliska 04.15.2009 01:28 PM

this is great, 250 for the truck, 150 for a lipo charger(or cheaper if i buy used), and 100 for a bunch of 3s lipos. right at 500 for a whole new mini erevo setup. Cant wait to pick one of these little babys up!

lincpimp 04.15.2009 02:05 PM

Hmm, if you plan to run 2 2s packs in series I would buy this lipo charger: http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...Charge_Capable

It will charge at about 1.8amps, and will do 2 2s packs at once. Plenty for the size packs we are talking about. I have one and it works great, charges each cell in the pack separately, so the charge time is fast even with an out of balance pack.

They also have a 5 amp power supply for 10 bucks.

And 2 of these packs: http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...0mAh_2S1P_20C_

Run them in parallel for a 3200 mah 2s setup that will do 30 and have great runtime, or go in series for a 1600mah 4s setup that should easily beat 50.

With std shipping you are at less than 75 bucks... And I am sure that the prices will come down on the minis, so I can imagine you could keep the cost under 300 bucks for the whole deal...

Pliska 04.15.2009 09:33 PM

that is great news linc, this stuff sure is alot cheaper than 1/10th stuff,atleast when i was looking into it. ill have to pick up two or three sets of lipos for max runtime!

so around 300ish for a full brushless lipo mini erevo! i can swing that!. then comes the upgrades oh i have caught the bug again! :yes:


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