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jhautz 04.29.2009 09:27 AM

The problem is the nitro mudguards have the radio box and all kinds of other stuff built into them. They aren't like the normal mud guards. It could be done, but you would need to do allot of cutting to them before it would work.

Marvin 04.29.2009 11:01 AM

Yeah, as jhautz said, the nitro version has the radio box built into the side guards.
Also I don't know how similar the actual shape of the electric and nitro chassis are, but I'm pretty sure they are different. The Nitro one has angled sides whilst the electric one is straight down each side parallel to the centre.

FG101C 04.29.2009 03:41 PM

Then I wonder if Losi or Xray 808 guards would work, the Losi chassis is straight, the Hot Bodies D8 is also. Hmmm.....

Marvin 04.30.2009 03:18 PM

The Losi ones wouldn't, because the chassis is offset so one guard would be too big. The 808 chassis has slightly angled sides, but the side guards are probably too big. The 808 chassis is probably even narrower than the Losi.

I reckon that you could easily make side guards with the mesh that is used for car repair, mould it to the right shape, cover it with fibreglass, then screw it in place. Actually, you may not even need the fibreglass covering, the mesh is fine enough to stop large clumps of 'stuff' getting through, but you still have cooling.

I will be doing a modification that allows quick battery removal, though I'm still working on the design.

Cain 05.04.2009 10:04 AM

so any more news on the car? How has handling been compared to other conversions based on your experiences?

Right now, looking at either doing one of these, or just going with the RC8B when it becomes available and converting it.

One thing I wonder, if they could have designed it so the ESC sat on the chassis, and moved the receiver box to be above the servo?

Marvin 05.04.2009 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cain (Post 284410)
so any more news on the car? How has handling been compared to other conversions based on your experiences?

I haven't yet had another chance to race it :no:, but should be this weekend. It was way better handling wise to the 8ight that I had before, it has far more rear end grip and yet has better turn-in than the Losi. On-power steering is less though, probably a good thing considering the loose track surface I race on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cain (Post 284410)
Right now, looking at either doing one of these, or just going with the RC8B when it becomes available and converting it.

I would go with the Hyper (though obviously I would say that!) because the design is new and fresh, the RC8B is just the RC8 with the parts it should have had in the first place (stepping in the firing line here!). However, this does mean that it is more proven perhaps than the Hyper.

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Originally Posted by Cain (Post 284410)
One thing I wonder, if they could have designed it so the ESC sat on the chassis, and moved the receiver box to be above the servo?

I would have thought so, but you would be more limited on ESC space (esp with a HobbyWing 150A ESC), and cooling flow might suffer in comparison to where it is now. Also, the body fitment may be a problem with the radio box up high at the front. And the radio box would have to be smaller so those with the larger receivers would be stuffed. Just my opinions though.

Cain 05.04.2009 05:04 PM

Here is a pic of what someone did to get the Speedpassion ESC on the chassis:

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...DSC02582-1.jpg

I think this may be the way I would go if I had the tools and know how to countersink the servo post screws.

As for the RC8B, I would sure like to see if RC Monster Mike could work his design magic and come up with a Version 2 of his conversion that changes the RC8 into something similar as the Hyper 9 as far as placement of battery and electronics go.

BlackedOutREVO 05.04.2009 10:51 PM

Thats a clean layout. I was wondering if a ESC would fit if you take out the RX box

Looks like a sick buggy!

Marvin 05.05.2009 12:52 PM

Actually, that does look pretty good. Only problem is the Rx is a bit exposed.

Countersinking isn't that hard though if you have access to a decent drill. You just need a countersinking drill bit and a drill bit of whatever size you need the hole to be.

SpEEdyBL 05.05.2009 04:34 PM

What is the weight of the buggy w/o the battery/

Marvin 05.05.2009 05:11 PM

Weight w/o battery, (but with the rest of the electrics) is about 2900g.

Cain 05.05.2009 08:51 PM

have you had to boil any parts?

gixxer 05.05.2009 10:30 PM

just got mine today. Will build the shocks and try to set it up tomorrow. still dont have my tekin but I will put something in it.

Marvin 05.06.2009 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cain (Post 284764)
have you had to boil any parts?

No, I haven't bothered, and it has turned out to be pretty tough so far.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gixxer (Post 284808)
just got mine today. Will build the shocks and try to set it up tomorrow. still dont have my tekin but I will put something in it.

I would change the diff and shock oils to something you know, as the instructions don't indicate the oils used. I'm running 5000,5000,3000 in the diffs and it handles really well. I don't know the oil in the shocks as they came pre-built on mine (must have been built for display maybe).

Good to see they will be popular:intello:.

gixxer 05.06.2009 03:41 AM

I thought they would be pre built too. The one I saw on ebay way. This one I got from ofna on there auction site. I was happy to see that it came with crimefighters though.

would of been nice to have a manual that doesn't have nitro stuff in it though.

Cain 05.06.2009 08:45 AM

for the tires it comes with, are they M2's or M3 crimes? Hope to get some more first hand accounts of the vehicle

Marvin 05.06.2009 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gixxer (Post 284837)
I thought they would be pre built too. The one I saw on ebay way. This one I got from ofna on there auction site. I was happy to see that it came with crimefighters though.

At least you got some decent tyres! The ones I got are of no use to man, beast or cucumber! :lol:
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Originally Posted by gixxer (Post 284837)
would of been nice to have a manual that doesn't have nitro stuff in it though.

Yeah, I know. Though the electric bits are quite easy to suss out, and I suppose none of the conversion bits normally available have manuals anyway so it's not that bad. Though I have no idea what the part numbers are for the electric bits.

Cain 05.06.2009 12:18 PM

what parts other than electric specific ones (chassis, etc) appear to have been changed from the nitro kit to the electric one? Looks like the wing is different.

FG101C 05.06.2009 01:43 PM

Anybody have any body on pics yet?

Cain 05.06.2009 02:59 PM

I am suprised there hasn't be much talk on ofnas boards. I thought there would have been more.

In the manual, they don't include a part specific sheet so you can order spares?

Also, can you confirm if the steering knuckles are metal? if so, hard anodized? Can really tell from all the pics since they have wheels on.

Marvin 05.06.2009 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cain (Post 284887)
what parts other than electric specific ones (chassis, etc) appear to have been changed from the nitro kit to the electric one? Looks like the wing is different.

None, the suspension is the same, and the wing is the same, just a different colour.

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Originally Posted by Cain (Post 284905)
In the manual, they don't include a part specific sheet so you can order spares?

Nope. Not that I found anyway. Hopefully Gixxer can chip in on this as he got a newer one than I did.
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Originally Posted by Cain (Post 284905)
Also, can you confirm if the steering knuckles are metal? if so, hard anodized? Can really tell from all the pics since they have wheels on.

Yes, they are machined aluminium, and hard anodised in that earthy-brown colour that Hong Nors (Jammins) have.
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Originally Posted by FG101C
Anybody have any body on pics yet?

Unfortunately not, as I have seemed to have lost my camara, I'm sure again Gixxer can deliver the goods.

Cain 05.06.2009 04:28 PM

thanks for the info Marvin. Shot RC Monster Mike a pm over to see if he can slipperentialize the Hyper 9 and other small diff setups in the future. That would be really cool if he could. Heck, would love to see him make an RC8 conversion with a similar layout as the Hyper 9e.

Cain 05.06.2009 06:34 PM

looking at the manual, it appears that you could do the ESC on the chassis thing and the servo in the original location without having to rig up new servo mounts. Does the one servo mount closest towards the front of the chassis (ie- not part of the receiver box) have the ability to fit where the other servo mount gets screwed in?

gixxer 05.06.2009 06:35 PM

I set mine all up this morning after working a 13hr shift. the body is bad but I will post a few pictures.

Here you go FG101C. I also see you should have one soon, only couple of hrs left on the auction.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z...a/CIMG1734.jpg

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z...a/CIMG1738.jpg

Electric Dave 05.06.2009 07:42 PM

Nice Tom...you going to race that thing outdoors?

Cain 05.06.2009 08:13 PM

gixxer: can I get a closeup of the other side of the vehicle to see how you mounted everything, also, what electronics are in there?

FG101C 05.06.2009 09:00 PM

The last one on rc deal went for $365.00 I think. Need to sell my rc8 roller to make room for one of these.

gixxer 05.06.2009 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Electric Dave (Post 284951)
Nice Tom...you going to race that thing outdoors?

yah I plan on racing it at lesters. I will also try pinshop if they do friday nights. saturdays are hard for me. When I saw you last week at pinshop was actually the first time I had ever seen the track in person.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cain (Post 284960)
gixxer: can I get a closeup of the other side of the vehicle to see how you mounted everything, also, what electronics are in there?

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z...a/CIMG1730.jpg
esc is just shoe gooed to the top of the mounting bracket. The motor is a losi 1300kv (borrowed till tower ships my tekin :whip:) hitec 7955 servo, neu 6s 4300mah pack.

gixxer 05.06.2009 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FG101C (Post 284971)
The last one on rc deal went for $365.00 I think. Need to sell my rc8 roller to make room for one of these.

yah that was the one in my picture. was $15 for shipping, and shipping was a little slow but its all here now.

76Bentley 05.06.2009 11:05 PM

I read where Marvin stated that there is 80mm of room for a motor. I would like to set one up with the 2200kv combo from Castle if it is possible, but that would be cutting it kind of close. I would appreciate anyone who has one giving there opinion on if it would fit. Thanks

reddyteam 05.06.2009 11:29 PM

the MMM will fit but close, over 3/16

Cain 05.07.2009 10:35 AM

The nice thing with the mamba motors though is that the wires come out the side of the can. You should be ok then even at the max length stated.

I went ahead and ordered mine from ultimatehobbies.

Marvin 05.07.2009 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Cain (Post 285134)
I went ahead and ordered mine from ultimatehobbies.

Looks like we've got ourselves another Hyper 9!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 76Bentley (Post 285030)
I would like to set one up with the 2200kv combo from Castle if it is possible

Oh, and another one possibly!

gixxer 05.07.2009 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cain (Post 285134)
The nice thing with the mamba motors though is that the wires come out the side of the can. You should be ok then even at the max length stated.

I went ahead and ordered mine from ultimatehobbies.

damn dude that I know you are always asking for the cheapest, but damn that is by far the cheapest I have seen online. you should be very happy with it.

Cain 05.07.2009 01:23 PM

yeah I can't complain pricewise, thats for sure.

When comparing my options of working with the RC8 versus the Hyper 9e, on paper, the Hyper 9e was just cheaper for what I wanted to do.

I am going to see if can get a local into the RC8e I have currently so we can add another vehicle out here.

I printed off the manual for the Hyper 9e, looks pretty good. Part of reading the manual also helped me picl the Hyper 9e as well as the team drivers I spoke with.

So, now that this is coming, hopefully by end of next week, what is the hot setup to start with?

FG101C 05.07.2009 01:30 PM

Holy crap ultimatehobbies is cheap. Website is a little difficult to find stuff quickly but wow. Mini Hyper STe $159.95, Hyper 9e $399.95.

Cain 05.07.2009 02:10 PM

yeah, I go through them for kits if I can't find it cheaper through my normal sources. There parts prices usually aren't the best though. I also like the fact they don't charge for shipping on orders over $150 (at one time it was $50). I hate when you buy stuff from some online shops that advertise free shipping for items over "X" amount, but then have exclusions on certain items, even ones that weight wise, should cost about the same as a similar item that has free shipping. (Amains free shipping on the CC MMM versus u pay for shipping for the RX8)

I remember late last year they have RC8Ts dirt cheap, like $70 cheaper than anyone else.

Also, around holidays they drop prices significantly on a few items in the special area.

gixxer 05.07.2009 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cain (Post 285185)

I printed off the manual for the Hyper 9e, looks pretty good. Part of reading the manual also helped me picl the Hyper 9e as well as the team drivers I spoke with.

So, now that this is coming, hopefully by end of next week, what is the hot setup to start with?

do you have a link for the 9e manual? I just got a nitro one with my kit.

also I have to agree there site sucks. Really a pain to find anything. also hate how they cant just show you the price next to an item.

gixxer 05.07.2009 03:43 PM

never mind I found the pdf on ofna's site. Guess I will check it out now.

Cain 05.07.2009 04:39 PM

basically the first few pages (probably page 6 is the end) are specific to the electric vehicle. The rest is basically nitro stuff.


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