Thank's for not sueing me LOL!!!. Please keep us updated on your second version. Also you said you had to file the chassis to get the tranny to fit. Were exactly did you have to file ?. Why did you dicide not to use the revo tranny?.

The area that has to be grinded away is pretty obvious once you hold the E tranny into the chassis. You just have to make a bit a bigger hole for it. It really is just a few mm's.

I decided against the Revo tranny for two reasons: First, I didn't like the idea of an auto shifting on an electric motor, and second, the E tranny offers you a nice motor plate, which in turn gives you a handy place to mount the esc as well.
Plus, I have the impression that with UE idlers this EMaxx tranny is BL proof.
(and the shift-with-your-thumb thing is just awesome)
The next version may be single speed, though.

Dafni - Please, post some pics of your BL Twin Force. How does it do in race conditions?

Alien, you can see my BL TF here:
http://www.lsarc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=502

It has changed alot since then, I should make new pics.
I don't race this truck (in fact there is no off road track in my area at all), but I bash it at a local gravel pit and an BMX course.

Dafni - Would you consider building any EVO conversions. Please email me with info.

john@area51audio.com

If I could afford lipos I'd turn my Revo into electric. I love this thing!

My Revoxx is doing great! It is currently being dressed up for a trip to Sweden, where I hope to get a chance to race some nitros. So at the moment I'm trying out different suspension set-ups.

I'm also looking forward to try a Lehner, and hope to get some safer temps and better runtime.

Dafni,

First, I must say that your Revo looks awesome! Very nice work!

I just got my Revo today, and have already removed all of the components that I won't need, to convert it to Brushless.:D I will be using my Plett MAXXimum and Schulze 18.97, from my E-Maxx, to power this new beast! I would like to know if you had to replace the short front center driveshaft with another long rear center driveshaft to fit the E-Maxx tranny? When I test fit my single speed E-Maxx tranny, it appeared that I would need another long center driveshaft to make it work. Also, I noticed that the output shaft, from the tranny, doesn't fit all of the way into the Revo driveshaft yoke. Did you file the end of the output shaft to fit, or did you open up the inside of the yoke?

Thanks.

Glad you like it. I'm rather fond of it myself. I think a picture update would be in order, this truck gets better every week!
Now it has a black RCM heatsink, btw.

Yeah, the driveshafts, I started with Maxx shafts. I just cut some front/rear Maxx shafts to the right lenght and bought some Maxx yokes. Held up fine, no problems at all.
Then I modified the front shaft with a one-way bearing, still Maxx stuff. No problems either.
At the moment I run custom made Titanium Dogbones in MIP cups, looks absolutely bulletproof, and stylish too. Ask Mike about them.

Like I said, I should get some new pics. Compliantguy, have you seen the pics on page 2?
Hey, a Plett Maxximum is what I always dreamed of, but I've never been a friend of Schultze. I always thought I'll wait for another controller before I buy the Plett.
Now I changed my dreams, and one day I would like tu run a Lehner 1940-7 on a 120 amp warrior. But in the meantime I'll get a Lehner Basic XL.

What battery configuration do you plan to use? My setup proved good, so far. I can run it on asphalt (on RoadRages) and never had one single traction roll!! It's MUCH more stable than my stock Maxx. I love its driving characteristics.
Up until now I had a bit of a trouble finding the right gearing for my Feigao, but other than that, the design works great. I also like the absence of the chunky plastic boxes, they just spoil the sleek look, IMHO.

Have fun with your project, and keep us updated.
I am tinkering with the V2.0 of the Revoxx, and originally I wanted to sell V1.0 to get another BL. But at the moment I think I will keep both and turn the first one into a low-geared, twin brushy Crawler type-of-thingy to play around in my backyard.

Feel free to ask whatever you like, glad if I can be of some help.

DAF

Hi dafni, very nice bl revo!
I'm very interested how u did that and what costs u had on this project.
A friend of mine has buyed hisself a Revo (Nitro) and i m totally impressed of his driving qualities. But i dont want to drive a nitro, because here in Germany u are not allowed to drive them outside an official racing terrain...

So it would be great if u can tell me something about how u build ur bl revo, what parts u've used and how much it costs.

Hi Rannick, welcome to the forums! You got a PM!

You can see lots of pics on page 2 here!! YOu can get most info out of my thread here.

Check www.LSARC.com too. (I got a "sticky" in Members Projects)

Costs?? Shhhh....We don't talk about that;) Never ever add it all together :p


:L: seriously:

Roller: $220
Tranny: $50
BL combo: $280
Wheels and body: $100
Plus a small fortune in shipping and customs and misc. stuff.

Dafni,

Thanks for the information. A picture update would be great! Yes, I did see the pictures on page 2, which help a lot. Do you have a dimensional drawing, that you could e-mail me, for the battery trays that you made?
I orginally was going to use my single speed E-Maxx tranny, but I'm going to try the Revo 2-speed tranny first. The spur gear on the Revo has a "M1" stamped on it. Does that mean it is a "MOD 1" spur gear?

Of course, I'll have to create a custom motor mount and a mounting shelf for the speed control, but I love a challenge.:) I love my Plett and I did pony up for the 18.97, but I sure wish that somebody would make a less expensive controller that was mounted in a plastic case AND included a fan for the heatsink. I've got some ideas of what the perfect speed control would look like, but I doubt that anyone will build one. Most of the manufacturer's like to use the heatshrink instead of an actual case like the Novak EVX.

Thx that u welcome me in this forum and for the fast reply!

Shhh... Sry that i asked after the money :o :L: but i needed to know my budget is limited but i want to build one on my own :) and ur Revoxx is just great :Love:
I think i try to build it after ur very great example.

Good thing is you can start with it easy, invest some money now and then. You could also use the titans with the maxx controller. Or make your own motorplate and use the stock transmission of the revo, with the mechanical brake.

Rannik: Good to hear you like it that much.

Compliantguy: Sorry, but I have no drawings whatsoever. Made all the stuff on a vise out of alu-sheets. It's straight-forward, though. Just measure your batts and use your imagination.
Can't help you with the Revo spur, either. In fact, I have never ever seen a stock Revo in real life.
I don't know if you'll be able to mount the batts "Daf-style" if you use the stock tranny. Check Starscreams BL Revo, he uses the Revo tranny with modified spur.
Ja, I also love a challenge.:) That's why I choose a Revo over an 1/8 buggy, and I already work on the second Revo conversion.

Later

DAF

I would be interested what runtimes u have with youre Bl Revo :)
Runtime is a Topic that interests me a lot as you know :p

Hmm, me too:D
Unfortunately I have no representative numbers at hand. Had a hard time finding the right gearing, and had some bad luck with motors. I hope my new Lehner will get some more sensible numbers.

But I can say that much:

On the brushed setup (Titans/EVX) you get good 15 minutes if you bash around in both gears. Even more if you stay in first a lot, less if you keep it in second gear. If you have full race conditions, you will hardli get 9 minutes.

On the 9L I got barely 10 minutes under full race conditions. But this is not reasonable, because I never managed to keep the motor in a save temp range.

(all on 14 cell GP3300mAh)

I agree with Serum, you can always start low, and buy better stuff later on. Basically the more efficient systems are also the more expensive ones.
I myself had a good time on the brushy setup, and at the moment I am thinking of making the V1.0 brushed again, when v2.0 is finished. Then I'll have a race ready truck, as well as a Backyard Basher;)

Ah u make a new Bl Revo. What will u change in this version :) very exciting :p

Ooh, this is still under cover, some serious top secret stuff here ;)

Heheh:p Just kidding.

Nothing too exciting, really. The design will remain the same, more or less. Altough the pics you have seen are not really up to date. (have no digi-cam myself:o )

The Race truck will get all the aftermarket goodies, and the Basher will get the left-overs. Also, the Racer will get a single speed conversion (originally wanted a center diff).

Actually I wanted to build a new one, just because I liked this work so much, and sell V1.0. But now I changed my mind and I will keep both, and turn the old one into basher.

I just found this forum (great forum!)

Dafni I sent you a PM about your revoxx! I currently have a BL emaxx in progress, but the cost is getting to be insane. Everything I have is still new, so i might just resell it and put it toward a revo roller.

Welcome aboard, Roost! Look around some and I am sure you ill find a bunch of useful information and tips for your e-maxx, and Dafni is a great resource for the E-Revo!

Thanks, I think I am going to drop the emaxx project at this point (have 300+ in new parts, and would still have to front the money for a nice chassis) and go with an e-revo powered by a novak HV or a 9l.

that's the spirit! convert your revo! i would get a stronger 9L over the hvmaxx, but that's just me.. The drivetrain of the revo is proven tough for the 9L

ROOST, pm sent ;)

Serum: Indeed, so far no problems at all. But I'm a carefull driver. Let's see what the Lehner will do to it.

RCM-Mike: Thanks, man. I try my best, always ready to help out, even with my limited knowledge.
BTW, amazing how many Feedback I got (and still get) about this truck.

Yeah it's just a great conversion, you really deserve that much feedback.
BTW can u eventually do a runtime test with ur bl revo.
I am be very interested in the amount of time u can drive with ur new Lehner. :p

Yep, Rannick, expect my report as soon as I get the pinions.

One more thing for you: I was bashing with my BL-TF (9L on 14 cells) at my secret gravel-pit spot, not too long ago. We were shooting photos (the ones you might have seen on LSARC) so I had a lot of stop-and-go and small breaks as well. But the batteries lasted a solid 30 mins, at least! I was amazed.

Here's a pic from this session, just to spice it up:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...e/4ad1a9ff.jpg

Damn 30minutes!
So my optimistic dream of a above 20min runtime gets real in the end! :)
So 9L and 14 batts are the secret recipe :P
BTW nice place for driving u have there and nice picture, so full of movement, shooted in the right moment :P. Have to begin to look out in my range for those spots too.
Te polpulation density is just a bit high in NRW, the federal state i life in. You find seldomly places that arent ownt buy somebody or arent under nature conservation.

Are there any BL motors that have maybee even lower power then the 9L and might offer even another bit runtime more?

8L can be run on 12 cells don't know about runtime but going to guess it draws less amps.

The 8L is a hotter motor than the 9L. 10L would be the choice for a longer runtime.

I once ran my savage for two hours on 1 batteriecharge.. Sounds unbelievable, but it is the uncoloured truth. we where walking in the woods, and i had her spinning next to me, sometimes a bit of trial, hard accelerations and hillclimbing.. i was impressed. when i swapped batteries, my receiver pack was empty.. I never expected it to be empty sooner than my GP3300's..

you got the two hours with a 10l? How is the power compared to the 9l? How many cells are optimum for that setup?
I am looking to get somthing I can run 6 and 7 cells packs with (So I can run them in my stadium as well)

The 10L I have seen run was run on 16 cells I think that is the highest the motor can take. If you want to run 12-14 cells then the 8L for 12 cells and 9L for 14 cells.

Hey, i've been researching on a brushless revo lately and i came across your car. Ima be honest, yours is the best one so far. You said you were gunna sell your first one? U still have it? How much?

wheres the RX? i dont see where it is

The RX, well, look closely! :p
Try to find the UBEC, and you'll get a prize.:L:

Nah, RX and UBEC are on the inner side of each batt tray.

Won't sell it in a hurry, though. Gotta finish V2 first, and then I'll decide.
But let me tell you, I already got some mad offers.

ever have glitching problems or insane cogging? Y is the antenna ALLL the way in the back of the revo?

Never had glitches, nor cogging.

Antenna is where it is because there's a handy place to mount it. Should post a close up.

He dafni! can you write out the instructions to convert the revo? Y dont you use those battery trays, that the other people put on their revo instead of those 2 peices of metal.

Batt trays, well. Tons of room for improvement, true. I always liked those slot designs!

The bent alu trays work well, too.
Instead of those cut E-Maxx chassis, I would go for TF trays. They are nice, and hold 7 cells. But I'll stay alu there.

Instructions to convert it my way, hmmm? Let's see. I wish the day had more hours.
But we'll come up with something as detailed instructions in due time.

tf trays? links?

I converted my revo to bl the same way dafni did his its pretty easy. I went to the hardware store and bought angled aluminum for the battery trays. take some battery with you or at least mesure them to get the right size aluminum part. I got 4in angled al. Total time to do it right took about 1 day maybe a little less. Tip when you bend the al tabs bend it slow so it wont break.