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The people in this beautiful country should do something and put an end to all of this toxic chemicals in food, medicines and every other thing we put in our bodies. The US might need a big scare to make people think twice and start asking questions. I'm working on something that will start to shine the light on some things. It will take a while.
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One would assume she's looking for her hit of amonia & it aint coming fast enough...?
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Someone should have stuck that bucket on her head!!
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The owner of BPI claimed in the movie that 40% of the hamburger in the US contained his shit, and expected to reach well above that in the years to come. Quote:
What is just shocking to me, coming from a medical products industry regulated by the FDA, is what a complete dichotomy there is when it comes to regulations and enforcement. We make things that don't even go in your body, and we are constantly and vigorously inspected and monitored by FDA agents, who are very willing to micromanage and change our processes on the most remote possibility that a defect or inconsistency may occur in the process. Mind you, not in the product even, but a defect that may occur that would cause us to scrap the product well before it even left the door (and even if it did, not likely to cause any harm.) OTOH, food processors can get away with bloody murder putting god knows what toxic crap in the food because its so soaked in bacteria and animal shit, proper labeling of the food is forbidden, and every effort is made to protect the industry and keep their practices secret, all at the expense of our health and tax dollars. EG, remember all the fights recently whether or not meat and veggies should can even be labeled as GMO or having undergone gamma irradiation prior to packaging? (because the food is so loaded with fecal bacteria, e coli, it needs to be irradiated just to be safe. Spinach anyone?) I stopped buying the majority of the meat I buy at grocery stores a while ago as I knew some of this, and from previous experience growing up in a big Ag state and having a cousin owning a small ranch. I worked on it one summer in HS, and even took some animals to a local sm slaughterhouse and got to see a lot of shit no one ever gets/wants to see. The prepacked little slices of meat we see in the grocery is so far removed from its source its amazing. I'm fortunate to have a very good farm market just down the road that sells excellent meat from animals living on their 450 acre farm across the street which I can see, visit, know the farmers and know what the animals are eating and how they are raised and fed. Not only that, the meat is marginally more expensive, but much higher quality and has tastes that grocery meat from factory farms never has. My cousins meat too would be considered sustainable/organic/whatever (tho his gun-toting redneck republican ass would never admit it, lest he be a loony liberal hippie) and the lab tests he had done it showed way lower levels of fat and cholesterol, and much higher levels of iron and vitamins that store bought beef. No antibiotics, hormones, animal products or other unnatural crap in the feed either and it also always tasted amazing. |
On an aside, ever notice how Wendy's and white castle advertise thier burgers as 100% beef, but McD, BK and Taco Bell never do? Its because they are not and have tons of other additives in there.
A friend of mine had a GF who worked as an analyst/researcher for a mutual fund in NYC. He claimed she would read detailed reports from companies like McDs on their operations, and claimed worm meal is a large protein additive in a lot of FF places. I have no idea if its true, I could see it either way, but regardless it makes me ill to just wonder whats in that crap. In a certain respect, I think the worm meal may be actually cleaner than the beef they use, so I guess there is a small comfort in that. |
In some countries, they use ground earthworms (cultured night crawlers) in addition to lips and assholes for hotdogs.
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I'm going to re-read this thread in hopes of learning some cheap healthy alternatives. In the mean time, what are some cheap healthy alternatives? |
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Seriously though, the Japanese don't seem to have a lot of health problems and their diet consists mainly of fish, rice, and vegetables. I do some of my grocery shopping in Japanese supermarkets and this is what I noticed. |
Harold, I'm not sure how the food industry is structured in minnesnowta but in Sydney you have supermarkets (obviously), fruit & veg shops, butchers, fish mongers etc. Then you have "wholesalers" (a lose term for suppliers who don't have a retail presence)...if you can locate "wholesalers" (I'm sure you would have them) these are your friend, they're often very keen to please because they don't have the passing trade walking past their door
Supermarket bought fruit & veg lasts between 12-24hrs in my experience. Wholesale markets about 2 weeks at 50% the cost Supermarket bought meat is full of who knows what & unless immediately frozen lasts 24-48hrs. Wholesale you can (in Sydney anyway) order the grade, cut, weight etc at 50-60% the cost Supermarket bought fish...don't know, never been brave enough! Fish mongers is ocean fresh (I should ad, Sydney has good seafood) & premium quality at 50-70% the cost http://doctor2008.files.wordpress.co...d_pyramid1.jpg The old pyramid is a good guide but I think most nutritionists are recommending less grain based foods these days. But the maxim "everything in moderation" is king...this accommodates the pointy end of the pyramid Ditch processed foods in favour of whole foods. The more times food has been handled generally the worse it is for you...white sugar for example is highly refined, if you need to consume sugar it should be raw sugar...don't buy crushed garlic in a jar buy a head and crush cloves...buy rolled oats not "minute oats" - that's the idea. Most restaurants will include "healthy" options on their menu, they are usually heavily seasoned & fat laden to give them taste & appearance - eat in! much cheaper & better for you, generally speaking Good fats...avacado, oily fish, olives etc. Bad fats...butter, palm oil, hard cheese etc. Salt is a killer, tasty but a killer...use pepper (or fresh chillies) instead We often buy in bulk & pre-prepare meals which are then stored frozen until required. Some tinned foods are excellent also, many are available in organic varieties...for example you can buy a tin of chick peas, ad a dash of tahini, fresh lemon juice, garlic & splash of olive oil & smash it in the blender/processor & you've got the best homous you've ever eaten...perfect as a butter substitute or on toast for breakfast On & on it goes but that's some of the ideas we use at home to eat well & economically |
Thank you. I love fish, but as land locked as I am there are no mongers. I'll occasionly get fresh game fish from friends, but not often enough. I end up buying "talapia" from the supermarket. Yes the same talapia that eat the poo in water treatment facilities end up in supermarkets. I love me some salmon, but that's a spendy fish.
Wholesalers are seasonal, as in only during the summer. My main habit is sugar. Sweet cereal in the morning and soda to drink. I'm slowly cutting that out. There is a good butcher in my hometown that has excellent meat. Every time I go there I leave with a pound of bacon. It is soooo delicious. I need to cut back on that too. I've got all kinds of things to work on for the new year:party: |
Just had a thought about the warnings on foods, you get them on high caffiene drinks but you rarely see 'not suitable for children or lactating women' on a food product.
There is a small island at the southern end of Japan. This place has the longest life expectancy in the world. Of course it is due to their diet which is rice, seafood and vegies. Most people on the island grow their own vegies and of course being an island the seafood is fresh. That's not all, Japan has a very strong food culture and most are interested in eating healthy. On the flip side Japan has a lot of processed ready to eat foods and have had for a long time, babies are being born with health problems due to mum and dad living on such items. You don't hear about it because they're a minority. Good food is hard to source for a couple of reasons. Fresh is not mass produced and will not travel far (if it does then obviously..........). It is much more profitable to scrape up leftovers, mix it with other rubbish and pump it with chemicals to stop it rotting. Farmers as a whole don't get paid what they are worth. I had a good family friend (who is a farmer) tell me why. Farmers the world over will get paid just enough to make a living because if they made good profits they would sell up and live good while the rest of us try to source some food. As Lutach pointed out, the people need to take steps to force an industry to change. Sounds big but it's simple really, just eat healthy. Cheap and nasty shit will always be available and has it's place but the only way to make it less profitable for the companies is to stop buying it! |
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Looked at the Food Inc. trailer Finn, and it reminded me of a few others.
The Meatrix- http://themeatrix.com, and The World According To Monsanto- <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/hErvV5YEHkE&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/hErvV5YEHkE&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> If things continue the way they're going, I figure in 10-15 years we'll be eating melamine patties (with beef additive) on 100% recycled styrofoam buns, with potato-flavored sheetrock slices (from China of course). I may come off as some kind of health food nut... not at all the case. And for many years I pretty much lived on fast food. What I am concerned with is the fact that almost nothing is safe anymore. Even so-called organic is no guarantee (lutach can tell, but how many others would, being so used to eating fake garbage?) and it is hard to come by, and not affordable for most people. A friend of mine has a teenage daughter. I interrupted dinner one night like I always seem to. There's his daughter, staring befuddled at a stick of butter... He tells her "it's just like margarine- you just put it on the bread". That's right, 14 or 15 years old.. and never used butter. They had run out of margarine. Now according to some, margarine is only "one molecule" from being plastic... it sure tastes like plastic to me, always hated the stuff. But it got me thinking- there's at least one generation already that has little or no idea where their food comes from. They probably think it comes from a factory, and not the ground. Well you can't fault them for that can you? It really is 'grown' in a factory. This is where overpopulation is truly an issue. Because we are at the point at which human existence relies on factory farming. It's not a case of there being too many mouths to feed, it is strictly a matter of there not being enough independent sources of food anymore. Which naturally leaves the big boys in a huge monopoly. They are then free to dictate what is or is not safe. With such trustworthy agencies as the FDA and USDA more or less in bed with those companies. I just don't see a good outcome.... |
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Ever hear about hunters that are mad about a particular animal because they love the 'gamey taste'? That's the difference between organic and farmed. I've worked on a cattle station in the kimberly region of australia, the place is so isolated it's like stepping back in time. The taste difference of meat is not just a little different it's.............sorry my eyes are glazed and mouth is watering. Grain fed beef doesn't excite me either cause that too is bland in comparison. |
The taste of freshness can't be beaten. I've missed the great taste of the food I used to eat down in Brasil. Specially coming from a small city and having many good farmers selling fresh products every day at the local market. If anyone wants to see how small my city is look it up: Governador Valadares, Minas Gerais. The flavors are just unmatched by anything you find in a super market here in the US. Strange thing I'm finding now is, many of the Brasilian products are not in stock anymore and they don't know when they'll have them.
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Here in Japan, I get fresh produce from the Japanese farmers every weekend when they are allowed inside the Navy base to sell thier farm produce. I have never eaten so many fresh fruits and vegetables since moving to the U.S. in 91'. In fact, a friend and I just came back from the Tsukiji market place where they sell live and frozen seafoods including the most expensive bluefin tuna which cost over $170,00. Unbelievable.
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Hey George16, have you found if there is much RC around you in Japan?
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Its a fairly big market, I'll post the link as it might be easier to get a hold of them that way. Prices are not that off from the grocery stores in the area. http://www.nonesuchfarms.com/index.htm You might be able to even buy a quarter beef for a good discount if you have freezer space. If they don't have something to suit for needs, there are tons of small producers in eastern PA near NJ that maybe able to serve you. Quite a bit of stuff in NJ as well. A nigerian friend of mine goes out to a farm near Easton to buy fresh goat, and another guy I know gets lambs from a sm local farm near Somerville, NJ. Typically those places you buy a whole or partial animal and save it in the freezer. Not as convient as buying a lb of burger from the local Stop and Shop, but is often of much higher quality and can be quite a bit cheaper in bulk. That was the only way my cousin sold his beef. |
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I'll see what I can do. :)
@redshift: Here is a little article that came to me today re:Monsanto. Apperently their bad deeds have not gone unnoticed, and are trying to backpedal to avoid a backlash. Quote:
Basically all the poor farmers just had to settle out of court and stop their business as they didn't have the money to fight in court. Not that this token gesture should stop legal inquiries of monopolistic practices. |
Yeah Finn, if you watch the whole Monsanto movie you'll see it gets much worse. Indian farmers committing suicide in droves, etc. because they are literally powerless against these multinationals. And of course the 'pre-emptive' strikes and suits against "potential breaches of patent"-- just insane the scare tactics they'll use. All in the name of providing less-healthy, more plentiful food supplies. And once these strains cross-pollinate, all bets are off. This is food terror in every respect. But a smiley face on a product label is usually enough to satiate the masses.
Sweet. Everything's cool, and this cereal tastes healthy as F*CK!!!:yes: |
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Yes, somewhat panda. But I get the impression many of their higherups have a bit of savior mentality. They may even believe they're doing "god's will" as far as 'providing for the future generations'. You know how easily most people are cheer-led into believing the best about the company they work for. Problem is, these same co's are hugely responsible for getting us in this situation.... where've I heard anything like that before?
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It only takes a few bad execs to ruin or currupt the hard work of a lot of good people down below. Story is common enough and prolly will never really change. As far as Monsanto is concerned, they seem quite firmly planted on the bastardly side of the scale. Before the seed controversies, there were huge lawsuits against them for PCB manufacure, dumping, and poisoning an entire town in AL. Here's a more neutral site, but the formatting is crappy. Basically they did a lot of dumping of chemicals, knew that there were serious health implications for people, and didn't say shit and kept doing it. @ Luc: I'm sending you an email in regards to the beef. |
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