OMG, These have nothing to do with the bearings.

Look at the old carriers you removed, on the back where the threaded part of the pivot ball where it comes through the back there is a metal ring(very hard to see, same color as the black plastic) must be removed and installed on RPM carrier to prevent the balls from popping out.

My E-Revo and 2 Nitro Revos are a couple of years old now, and none of them have metal rings on the axle carriers.. Was there an update? :whistle:

I read the instructions included with the updated 5334R Traxxas axle carriers and it's said these rings are bearing adapters required only if you use the inner bearings of the old 5334 Traxxas axle carriers which are smaller than the inner bearings of the 5334R model.

RPM use their own design for their axle carriers so I don't understand why you want I use the bearing adapters with these carriers :neutral:

One of my pivot ball pops out my RPM axle carrier because it suffered a lot during the skate park session. It's not because I forgot to use something.


Yes freeagent there was an update, a bit old by the way :mdr:. The axle carriers have been reinforced around the pivot ball holes with built-in alu rings. Links above.

Yes a update, same part number but w/a X on the end.
The difference is the steel ring.

""One of my pivot ball pops out my RPM axle carrier because it suffered a lot during the skate park session. It's not because I forgot to use something.""

Uh, yes you might have. The steel ring goes on the outside of the carrier to keep the material from expanding to keep the friggin' inside.

Golden Horizon carriers are the bees knees, incase you were looking for something new to try out :rofl:

Sounds like these steel rings are real handy when you have things popping out and you want then to stay put. Should we send some to Harold so that Hippie will stop popping out the back when the "action gets intense"?

I ran alot of traxxas products and gave up on anything other than the steel pushrods/tierods. I broke everything and anything other than the steels, which I would bend, but could straighten them.

I do like the rpm true track setup, had that on one of the revos. Nice. Want to put it in the center of my 6x6 maxx based truck.

Are you sure? I was looking at them and it only comes with 2 per set. I read the description and it say those metal rings are bearing spacers/adapters. You use them if you have the older, smaller diameter bearings. Correct?

Why do you guys think these rings have anything to do with the friggin' bearings ???

They go on the back of the carrier where the fookin threaded part of the pillow ball comes through, they prevent the ball from popping out the backside.

Then why does the kit come with only 2 rings? Wouldnt it come with 4, one for each pillow ball? Im not arguing, Im asking.

Those 'rings' are bearing spacers/ adaptors, not the same thing as what goes on the back of the pivot balls.




Dont worry Bondo, I know what you're talking about :lol:

They did only start coming fairly recently on newer 3905/ erevo style knuckles though, so maybe Popoxx didnt have any on his stock knuckles that are a bit older, but still 3905/ erevo style- I think that is where the confusion is coming from.

Funny thing is though, I just went through all the exploded views and the part listings on towerhobbies; absolutely zero info, pictures, or part #s for those metal caps. I've seen them with my own two eyes though- they fit in place of the blue rubber dust boot & retaining clip on the back of the pivot balls, yet I cant seem to fnid them anywhere :neutral:

Best bet is it to find something similar that will fit, or make a metal plate to screw on the back like the ImpaktRc knuckles:

http://www.impaktrc.com/product_info...oducts_id=3641



http://www.impaktrc.com/images/TKR10..._hubs_revo.jpg

I wish I was at home to show you the instructions included with the 5334R axle carriers and which explains that these 2 rings have to be used only if you have the inner bearing of the 5334 model !! But I'm not at home :whip:

There are only 2 rings for 2 axle carriers because there is one inner bearing per carrier. That's why they are called "bearing adapters".

We're maybe talking about 2 different things Bondonutz... :neutral:

DING DING DING DING !
What I'm talking about has NOTHING to do w/the Friggin' bearing.

If you're talking about the 2 rings you surrounded in you pic then you're talking about bearing... I hate this discussion :lol:

NO ! there not for the God Damn BEARING ????

I hate this too and the language barrier.

So let's stop here. I will post pic of what I want to show Friday when I'll be at home.

In this post of yours you show a red circle around a metal ring and drew an arrow pointing to the location of the pivot ball cup. The metal ring that you circled is not for that. THAT IS THE BEARING SPACER. The rings you are talking about, come on Traxxas part #5334r, they cannot be bought separate. I am not sure if they can be removed from the Traxxas part and used on the RPM part.

I used a members pic and added in what I am talking about.

I REPEAT; TRAXXAS #5334r COMES WITH THE METAL RINGS THAT SHOULD STOP THE BALLS FROM POPPING OUT. I AM NOT SURE THEY CAN BE REMOVED AND USED ON THE RPM AXLE CARRIER.

Edit:


/lunacy

Hope this helps !

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x.../P1080019B.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x.../P1080018B.jpg

And now.... VACATIONS !!! :happy:

OK, Now that we have decent picture I can see where the miscommunication is.

I have circled the part I've ben talking about, this is what prevents the balls from popping out.

Gee, thanks for repeating yourself ??
And yes they come off and swap over to the RPM carrier, a tricky install but nessasary.

lol.

:lol: There looks to be a small fire here and I have some gas so here goes. :lol:

You're absolutely right Bondo, the metal rings from the Traxxas carriers can be taken off and slipped on the RPM carriers. My question is... Why? :oh: You have to buy the Traxxas carriers to have these metal rings. The Traxxas carriers are perfectly fine, lightweight, tough and cheap to buy so why ruin them to try to fix crappy RPM carriers. But you are right, it can be done. I just don't see why. :mdr: Great vids and great truck as usual Popoxx.

Alright Mr Fuel,

No need to purchase extra TRX carriers to get the rings, they were updated 2+ years ago and come with all the TRX trucks and have for a Looooong time. I see the RPM carriers being superior over the TRX ones, larger bearings and better material,flex rather than break as by design. Once the rings are swapped over they are pretty much bullet proof ? I've subjected my ERevos to more torment than most guys can even imagine and the RPM carriers have never ben a issue, I've broken plenty of the stocks one tho.

yes that's true, I should've thought about that.

hmmmm... Us French guys must be doing things differently then. I have had the opposite experience with Traxxas carriers versus RPM ones. I did use RPM carriers for a while because of what you said about bigger bearings. But the bearings that were included by RPM failed on the first outing. I changed the bearings to new Avid ones and after a short while, a pivot ball popped out. So I did the modification you mentioned before by taking the metal rings from the Traxxas carriers and put them on the RPM ones. It held for a while longer until a pivot ball popped out again. It wasn't even the carrier from the first time but the other one, the pivot opening was deformed and the ring was stretched from the pop out. That's when I decided to go back to the stock ones. Which never gave me any problems with the pivot balls, I just wanted to use the RPM for the bigger bearings. But it really doesn't matter anymore because I came across a great deal on NIP RD Racing carriers so that's what I have on the E-Revo now.

Youre welcome. :wink:

ViDEo viDEo ViDeO vidEO
 

New vid !!

Back from holidays in Brittany with a stupid short video... :whip: : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkMu8ZFPeHk.

My summer workstation was great :yipi: :

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x.../P1080026B.jpg


Some pics of the monsters :

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x.../P1080058B.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x.../P1080059B.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x.../P1080044B.jpg


And breakage...

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x.../P1080065B.jpg


I confirm my ProTek lipo packs are really great !
And the ERBE is a good rock-crawler despite the sensored MMM combo !

Don't forget a big bottle of WD-40 when you drive near sand/sea :whistle:

Nice! In what way did you break the truetrac knuckle? I see the busted shaft. Did you deform the hinge pin area on the knuckle?

Eagle eye ! :mdr:
Only the driveshaft is broken, I just wanted to show the damn rust but it's hard to see it in fact... The hinge pins are really big I've never bent one !

HPP motor bracket
 

The new version of the HPP motor bracket is finally available ! The waiting was quite long but I'm really not disappointed :happy: I installed it yesterday it's a work of art. Ingenious design, perfect fit, high quality components and beautiful black anodizing :love:

Previous version :
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...1070378B-1.jpg

New version :
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x.../P1080067B.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x.../P1080068B.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x.../P1080109B.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x.../P1080115B.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x.../P1080116B.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x.../P1080119B.jpg

It's worth it !

Here is my next upgrade :mdr: :

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x.../Shooting2.jpg

It's the new HPP wheel hub, soon available. No more slope normally ! I will test it soon :yes: (I will post pics at least, my revo hates winter...).

I'm not really worried by the slight axial slope (look at my driving style...) but I want the best for my revo :party:

I finally found the time to install the HPP wheel hubs and updated bracket ! :D

Wheel hubs

Here is the result, step by step (as usual :mdr:) :

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x285/Popoxx/HUbs.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x285/Popoxx/One.jpg
Washer, axle pin, thread lock.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x285/Popoxx/Two.jpg
Hub.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...poxx/Three.jpg
Center nut with grease.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x285/Popoxx/Four.jpg
Wheel !

And tadaaa :

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...x/Blackhub.jpg
Bkack wheel nut.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...oxx/Aluhub.jpg
Desanodized wheel nut.

And of course, absolutely no slop :yes:

Updated bracket

Some people have had problem with the first version, the motor mount popped off during hard landings.
So HPP released a second version, larger (on the left) :

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...x/Brackets.jpg

Before :
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...orebracket.jpg

After :
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...terbracket.jpg


Now I have to trim this E-Maxx BL body to bash my revo soon ! (as soon as I find a nice spot around my new city) :party:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x285/Popoxx/Revo.jpg

Bye bye E-Revo
 

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...pscfd7129a.jpg

Yes... I did it :whip: I don't like seeing my trucks not used so I sold one to give it a second life !
It's a Traxxas forum member who bought it, I hope he'll post more pics and vids than I did these last years :oops:

Don't ask me if my E-Maxx is on sale, I could never do that, I keep pampering it ! :mdr: