bumsnogger meet Jerry, Jerry bumsnogger. Long moral filled conversation is about to begin.

On brighter news, I am back working. I have been since March, which was a little after I hit this bump in the road. My wife starts internship here in a few weeks and we will officially go down to one income. I have been applying for just about everything in Reno I appear qualified for just in case something better comes available. Reason behind this is I took the job I have now out of desperation, it fit the glove for the time being. Now that I have a steady source, I am seeking a more reliable source with medical benefits for the wife.

To top it off we had also moved to a new place, adding to the chaos. Too many life changes all at once will make you crazy. So far we have been enjoying the new place. Much closer to a bunch of local stuff to do. I am particularly excited about being a few miles away from the Marina, where I will see some boating action as soon as Traxxas gets that boat on the shelf for me to purchase.

Good to hear Reno. The road is uphill, but the view is worth it.

Yeh, good on ya Reno! A change is as good as a holiday and it seems a lot has changed lately, like turning a new leaf. Your not making any excuses either. Unlike snogger, no offence snog, but it sounds like your from a long line of hypercondriacts.

hypochondriacs?
 

Hi ,Hypochondria didn't exist when my mums family were topping themselves back in the 1800's. If you've got a genetic chemical inbalance there's nothing you can do! Like having ginger hair,.Having an IQ of 142 don't help.Us mentalists are often more intelligent than average,but can't use it,we just think dark thoughts.So it looks like you're saying schizophrenics,post traumatic stress victims ,abuse victims,etc should "pull themselves together"? I've wished for years that I could swap "problems" with someone who thinks like that,they'd be dead within a few months!

bumsnogger, I believe you. I don't know much about genetic depression, but I do know that on this planet we have one too many people. With all these people finding what it is that you want to do and how to do it is extremely difficult. As small as your life is and how original you think it is there is someone down the block doing that better than you. It is hard to accept a life that so many people live exactly the same for someone with a bit higher intelligence gap. Trust me, without the new form of intelligence, a degree, you are in line with everyone else to get the scraps. Not that having a degree in certain areas means a damn either...

I have to admit your history sounds interesting. I didn't know depression was a chemical imbalance, sounds a bit gay (pun intended). Every person goes through a depression at some stage in life, is that out of balance? Not every person decides to have gay sex or cut themselves like a self harmer which I understand are also chemical imbalances. Sorry for offending you, that's just how I understood it.

I blame society.

We are all little robots working to become programmers.

In a world where your dna and genetics don't count for shit, and survival of the fittest has nothing to do with the fittest anymore. I can see how people fall into a routine of self resent. Sometimes I wish I had the brain capacity of a three year old, life in ignorance is so much easier.

New form to life, survival of the money. Lets face it, our day in age, money ultimately controls how much life you can have. Don't get me wrong I understand the opposing side that life can exist without money, but living in America, and any other non-third world nation, money is a factor in what you can and can not do in almost everything to do with living.

Yes, that's all true Reno. I'm just a beleiver in what Jerry said, one chooses to be happy. Yes, money and lifestyle greatly affect happiness but are not the saviour.

logical
 

Even that logic $$$ will some day fall short. Look at what the $ was worth 60 years ago, and what it is worth now. That trend cannot go on forever. At some point civilization will have to take it under control and find another way for us to survive.

Having an illness like depression or even Bi-polar syndrome is truly a life sentence of daily tortures that the rest of us find a hard time graspping. My EX was Bi-polar. She had mad smarts and the opportunities to be something really special, but she just could not keep a hold of her sanity long enough to use what she had to make a positive difference. Suicidal thoughts and bouts of depression were a daily thing for her. She was able to share her tortures with me about trying to get a grip, but it seemed impossible. Medication seems to be the only saving grace along with regular therapy of some sort. In the end she spent her entire life destroying everything around her, because she refused to be teathered to any kind of medication. It eventually ripped our family apart, and she died at the age of 35 after fighting breast cancer for over 4 years. She lived a very sad life, but we have three amazing kids as a result of that relationship.

We were directed to read a book in the early stages of her problems(21) that would help us deal with the issues, and I recommend it to anyone who is looking for help in that area. "A Brilliant Madness" by Patty Duke Aston is one of the best reads I have ever had the pleasure of researching on the subject. She shares her experiences of dealing with this type of mental illness in the hopes of being able to help others find their own way of dealing with it. The book is a sort of autobiography of her struggles and how she ultimately destroyed her own family and life because of this illness. It is also great for anyone related to the situation who is trying to help. It is a never ending battle that only gets worse with age. Good luck with that.

I am sorry to hear that about your wife Jerry. I have never known someone with a disorder/illness of such, but I have a feeling that it would greatly affect the partner in the relationship.

I would agree with the idea of the fall of the mighty dollar. Humans have survived on less, and will continue to do so. I find it amazing that life now is revolving around money. Think about it, you pay for your food, your shelter, your clothing, you pay to have your waste removed, you pay to have someone groom you, you pay for your transportation, etc. I can go on and on, it really is a nightmare. There has to be a change soon, as the dollar and the systems held in place for the dollar are already showing signs of age and failure. It may need an extreme change, nuclear war, massive outbreak, but once that happens people will be forced to go back to the way we once lived.

mentalists!
 

Hi.I feel for you jerry2kone.It's hell living with someone who's ill in this way.I'm "lucky" my girlfriends got depression too.She lost her whole family except her dad and sis to cancer,and her mum was a little "tweaked" too. She's stuck it out so far. I had a friend ,iq of 150,got stuck in social housing(you can't hold down a job with depression) The landlord moved junkies(crack H amphets ,basically everything) in on his floor,The bastards held him down and injected him with a speed H coctail "to see what happens" He killed himself 2 years ago.So society can be slightly to blame. By the way,we're not named mentalists after the crap US "mindreader" TV prog .We're mentalists cause we're proffessionally mental. Living with a mentalist mum is a nightmare.Mines battered me,my sis,my dad, she'd dissapear for weeks,leaving us not knowing. She hates herself ,like I hate me.I'm pointless ,One of my psych's told me from her own mouth Quote" You don't know what depression is like ,if you've never had it"end quote. We tend to turn to drugs.I was an alchy,no beer for over 4 years though.It was the only thing that works,.Oh well nothing I can do about it.