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TexasSP 05.25.2010 10:02 AM

Sorry E-Sav, you are wrong, many top quality cells are mad in CHINA! China does not automatically mean garbage. So many people have no clue what actually comes out of the country. There are good people there making good products. There is plenty of garbage that has come out of the US too.

Sorry, but your "it automatically sucks because it comes from China" argument is wrong. Why don't you take a better look at what all you own that comes from China.

dezfan 05.25.2010 01:56 PM

The MA Saga.........................................IT'S EPIC!:lol:

zeropointbug 05.25.2010 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 366605)
Sorry E-Sav, you are wrong, many top quality cells are mad in CHINA! China does not automatically mean garbage. So many people have no clue what actually comes out of the country. There are good people there making good products. There is plenty of garbage that has come out of the US too.

Sorry, but your "it automatically sucks because it comes from China" argument is wrong. Why don't you take a better look at what all you own that comes from China.

Exactly, most packs right now are made in China, doesn't mean it's slave labor junk. Quit a few 'audiophile' amplifier and speaker brands are moving to China with superb quality control, only top qualified workers are allowed to work for them. Packs are either:

-Cells made in China, packs made in South Korea or Japan
-Cells made in China, packs made in China (professional shops or cheap labor shops)
-Cells made in Korea, packs made in Korea
-Cells made in China, packs made in USA (maxamps)
-any others I am just not thinking of?

All the best packs you can buy right now are from China as far as I know (both cells and packs) ex. HP G3's.....TP G4's

E-Revonut 05.25.2010 04:39 PM

Honestly I don't think it's always the MA cells that are to blame. I think the construction method of parralleling cells is to blame for more than 1/2 the failures. I like that there packs are a standard size and they just make them taller for more voltage or mah though.

zeropointbug 05.25.2010 05:11 PM

That too. I am not sure on this anymore, but I have heard they also don't match their cells, either capacity or cell Ri, or both... but they may have changed that policy.

Kcaz25 05.25.2010 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by E-sav (Post 366582)
The fact that this thread is continuing is testament that people are perfectly willing to discuss this issue.

People keep getting cancer but it is not enjoyed nor is it a good thing. Bad logic. I don't like you right now. haha. Kinda disrespectful to this forum and its mods.

rawfuls 05.25.2010 06:55 PM

I wanna jump in here before this thread gets locked, and archived/deleted..

Sure, it may be in a 2-car garage.
What bothers me, is why they're not discussing WHY their packs are the highest.
I won't lie, the heatshrink is quite fancy, cosmetics = A+, me, personally, have never, ever used MaxAmps, and I don't ever want to.

Their prices are OUTRAGEOUS. And that's why I won't be able to ever try them.

I think the reason they are selling so many, and are still in company is because they are active advertisers.

Here's a question.
Why has MaxAmps, especially Jason, never revealed REAL C graphs?
I fondly remember, on a forum, where a graph was revealed, and Jason quickly shot it down, had the thread deleted, and never responded.

Anyone down to do a REAL test on comparable tests?

I'll be down to contribute a couple bucks for MaxAmps, Turnigy, etc, to do a legitimate graph, and such.

reno911 05.25.2010 07:08 PM

^^^^^^^

Outstanding point, I think if their packs were obviously better, I would pay extra to buy them. Sort of like the difference between my Castle Motors and the Kershaw motor I have. Similar motors except one, the Castle, puts the other to shame. The difference in the motors is obvious and you pay the difference. The lipos there is no difference that I have ever encountered, yet you still pay a premium.

Bondonutz 05.25.2010 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by E-Revonut (Post 366729)
Honestly I don't think it's always the MA cells that are to blame. I think the construction method of parralleling cells is to blame for more than 1/2 the failures. I like that there packs are a standard size and they just make them taller for more voltage or mah though.

I agree here, I've taken apart several of mine and a few friends MA packs and the workmanship was pretty Shizitty. Cold solder joints, tab to tab joints questionable at best. One I found the one balance wire was on by a solder thread.

JERRY2KONE 05.26.2010 12:09 AM

Me too
 
I have a few MaxAmps packs and there is nothing different about them compared to any other Lipo pack purchased from China or Korea. I think the reason they get alot of the business is because of the advertising, the way they wrap and package their packs, and because alot of people think that by buying American that it is helping our economy. What they do not know is that the cells actually do come from China or Korea. So once again we are in the delema because the cells are foreign, but the packs are assembled in the USA. Leaving people to think they are buying an American made product. Not 100% ture USA made. Considering the markup of MaxAmps I only bought the first few packs when I first got into the hobby. Once I really looked into the Lipo business I decided not to purchase something that is priced with such inflated amounts for no good reason. Thats just my 2 cents since I do have some MA packs. Outside of that I do not have any issues with them as a company.

Kcaz25 05.26.2010 12:20 AM

Since owning a Hyperion I should really update my profile picture. Not that I ever was a fan boy but, I did get my MA cheaply and they still push my Maxx plenty fast after a year and a half, but not like my Hype! and not for the price difference, I highly doubt I would be so lucky to get the packs I did so cheap again from MA. I don't think I'll ever own another MA, I like my Hyperion much better.

scarletboa 05.26.2010 12:46 AM

i've seen 2 puffed maxamps tx packs. i guess the transmitter was just too much for those 2500mah packs. maybe it was that tiny LCD screen that pushed them too hard

danielc79 05.26.2010 01:01 AM

i have 11 turnigy packs, 4 i have had over a year, the other 7 for about 4 months. not a single failure/puffing yet. i have pounded the batteries several times running them 2 or 3 times in a day and recharging. the first 4 have also hit the ground quite often (they don't fit well in my emaxx and i didn't secure them well/broke the chassis and they fell out) and they are still tearing it up.

to me this is the test of quality. they last a long time and do what they are supposed to do.

zeropointbug 05.27.2010 11:00 AM

11 Turnigy packs! I hope they are not just for one R/C, or even 2, 3. I don't understand why people buy so many battery packs, heck I only have one pack for race weekends, HP G3, I use it at least 6-8 times a day for 2 days in a row, recharging immediately after running.

reno911 05.27.2010 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by zeropointbug (Post 367046)
11 Turnigy packs! I hope they are not just for one R/C, or even 2, 3. I don't understand why people buy so many battery packs, heck I only have one pack for race weekends, HP G3, I use it at least 6-8 times a day for 2 days in a row, recharging immediately after running.

For the packs that I could only charge at 1c I had 4 packs for a truck. Thats 1 pack for each heat and one for the Main. I had this set up for two different classes. Made more sense doing this than getting all the gear to charge at the track.

Andrew32 05.27.2010 12:16 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp94K0TGfTY

video fact

BrianG 05.27.2010 12:31 PM

I would love to try one of their newer generation packs, log a few runs, and tear it apart to look at construction. But previous experience has left me extremely gun-shy. And even if the test results reflect their ratings, they are still way overpriced.

Eventually, as the BL crowd grows (and their knowledge), no amount of magazine ads will help them stay in business. People will learn (some the hard way) and sales will plummet. Seems like their business plan revolves around making as much money as they can off of people's trust for as long as it lasts.

zeropointbug 05.27.2010 12:33 PM

Yeah, what a difference, almost looks 'faked' there is so much of a difference. A123 pack has way more punch than that pack if it's for real.

SixShooter 05.29.2010 12:44 AM

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...forelock-1.gif

lutach 06.09.2010 03:15 PM

Hello!!!!
 
3 Attachment(s)
Guy with long hair must be Jason.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...tory-pics.html (Credit goes to the rctech member).

Bondonutz 06.09.2010 04:17 PM

That thread will not be around much longer soon as the mods sniff out MA bashing.
To bad truth hurts ?

JERRY2KONE 06.09.2010 07:27 PM

Serious?
 
Are you serious? So MaxAmps operates out of somones house garage? Not that this is totally a mistake, but for the prices that they are charging one would be lead to believe that they have a very nice stand alone shop somewhere. Plus you would think that after being in business for a while that most of the issues of cold solders, and loose connections would have been overcome by now. Fancy packaging will only carry you soo far in business today. It has got to be that ROAR is pushing them as a reputable source for batteries added with their advertising that keeps them going.

JAILBIRD 06.09.2010 07:32 PM

I think alot of what keeps them in business is the un-informed public. They see a fancy add in a magazine, tell mom and dad that's what they want, and they get it. No research what so ever is done by that individual. Remember, now days, alot of parents will buy kids anything to shut them up.

-JB


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