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aqwut 08.17.2006 12:23 PM

oh yea.. it would definately pull better coolhand... that would just be amazing to see..... I'd love to see it... i wish i had a lathe and a mill .... or maybe just more time...... what about four 3080 powering each tire directly.. hahahhaha that's would be hilarious.... maybe I'll try it with some xls.... but with very very low kv rating.... :)

Serum 08.17.2006 12:28 PM

This is funny in my opinion Darren, you once got a kick from your HVmaxx, i can't imagine, that all of a sudden, you are that powerhungry. Remember where you want to put your money, in showing a truck that you can't drive at WOT?

Darren 08.17.2006 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum
This is funny in my opinion Darren, you once got a kick from your HVmaxx, i can't imagine, that all of a sudden, you are that powerhungry. Remember where you want to put your money, in showing a truck that you can't drive at WOT?

Showing a truck that's faster than most touring cars :005: .

Believe it :027: .Speed gets old very quickly. My 9XL even on 20 cells, has become, though quick, very boring.

aqwut, it's only gonna be run for 2 straight runs on each outing, the other thing to remeber is that I am not going to use the motors power on accelerating, i will slowly take it up to its top speed, that way, drivetrain suffers less.

This wont be my main truck, i'll still have my supermaxx.

Mike.L 08.17.2006 04:05 PM

if you do this i wanna see pictures! aslong as it isn't out of my pocket im down cool with it :D

Candyman2 08.17.2006 05:26 PM

You must have a hell of a paper round to afford it, thats all i can say.

Serum 08.17.2006 05:33 PM

Quote:

My 9XL even on 20 cells, has become, though quick, very boring.
Who are you kidding here?

Darren 08.17.2006 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candyman2
You must have a hell of a paper round to afford it, thats all i can say.

:005: !

Serum, I have a rather short attention span, I blast my maxx around on 18 cells usually, it's fun but I still want more. Once it gets to the crazily insane stuff, i'd be happy. (re: my supermaxx project, not 3080) I dunno, I just get bored by it. Might go dual brushless in my super. Unless my cells are crap? Should be good though.

coolhandcountry 08.17.2006 06:41 PM

Try lipo. It is more than nimhs. Try 6s lipo on your super maxx. With the weight savings and constant voltage. I think you have more fun with it. Picture you truck with the same power as 20 cells but only 10 cells on the truck. :D

neweuser 08.18.2006 01:52 PM

What gearing are you runing with the 9xl? What controller if you don't mind the hijac???
Also, a 3080? Can we say strip tease?

maXXler 08.18.2006 04:20 PM

Darren ,you ever have seen a lehner 3080 or a motor in the same size performing live??
I don't think so...

My english is to bad to explain in detail why its simply impossible to run a 3080 in an e-maxx even when its the best supermaxx.

I already build up a dual bigmaxx Maxx and a supermaxx with a 2250.

We also test a Bolido + Schulze 40160 on 10S Lipos in a modified 1:8 Car, but the car hasn't any chance!! the build really oversized CVD's and torsendiffs but one short ride and all work was destroyed.

And we are talking here of thousands of $$$.

In an maxx you also never have the enough room for all the batteries etc.
a 3080 is constructed for boats not for 1:10 MTs....
The car would also get toooo heavy and uncontrollable.


To run 20, 24, 28 cells is all ok, i'm also powerhungry, but your ideas are simply a dream.


That's only my opinion...


Waiting for pics:004:

coolhandcountry 08.18.2006 04:41 PM

Do you have any pics of your projects maxxler?
It sounds like some awesome projects.
A video would be even cooler.

maXXler 08.18.2006 05:02 PM

From my "EX" dual bigmaxx and my first bl-maxx (dual Hacker C40) i had had photos but i had only. About 6 months ago my pc crashed down and i loose all pics, vids of them... i have both cars sold so i can't tell you there they runnning; if they running ....


The bolido car was a project i do with a good friend and he sponsered all the parts but he said to me that i shouldn't take photos because he isn't so keen on with i-net and the trouble this machine would make. I can only say the project eats a lot of money and we saw no end so we don't finish it ...


But here some pics of the 2250 lehner maxx:

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/al...6465306339.jpg
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/al...3939613634.jpg

For the next time i will modified this maxx a bit, also will buy lipos...
I already want to sell it but i keep the truck.



For all new projects i will make up a thread here in this great forum ;) i promise.

squeeforever 08.18.2006 05:56 PM

What kind of rims and tires are those?!? That thing is sick! What kinda chassis?

At Darren, a 3080 IS possible, but its gonna cost alot. I would get some 5S or 6S Flightpower packs. I think they offer the best punch.

maXXler 08.18.2006 06:06 PM

The chassis is selfmade on my CNC...

the rims are also selfmade out of aluminium...


and now back to topic

cemetery gates 08.18.2006 06:13 PM

awesome truck maxxler,

i think that the only truck/buggy that the 3080 would not destroy would be the hpi 5b, or one of a similar size..............

squeeforever 08.18.2006 06:15 PM

Darren, why not put the 3080 in your Lightning instead? It would handle the power alot better.

coolhandcountry 08.18.2006 08:53 PM

I not sure if any 1/8 can handle it with out some serious mods.
I ran a 2250 and it was more than you need.
I think i have some of the pics of your rc.
I don't know where i got them. I thought it was cool.
Squee. Picture the 10xl you have with a 10 mm shaft thru it and the
whole thing is the rotor. That is about what the3080 rotor looks like.

squeeforever 08.18.2006 09:22 PM

Yea. I realize the size, just saying, if hes gonna do it, do it right :p. Besides. I think the LSP would be alot easier than a Maxx.

Darren 08.19.2006 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeeforever
Yea. I realize the size, just saying, if hes gonna do it, do it right :p. Besides. I think the LSP would be alot easier than a Maxx.

I converted it for my dad, he uses it at the track when i'm using my maxx.

Maybe I should try the 3080 in an FG Marder? Massive amount of room in there!

It is possible to do the 3080. Remember, its not an everyday car, more of a drag.

Mike.L 08.19.2006 10:03 AM

do what squee said, would be less harsh on your truck.

coolhandcountry 08.19.2006 10:31 AM

I like to see it in action. It is one massive motor though.
It is going to have massive power as well. If you get it
right it will be awesome.

nieles 08.19.2006 10:54 AM

what kind of esc are you going to use?

Darren 08.19.2006 03:12 PM

40.160 probably.

5th chassis sounds a lil better, more room.

RC-Monster Mike 08.19.2006 03:32 PM

Interesting project, Darren. No problem to make the motor mount, either. Just send me a file/drawing of wht you need.
If you want to get to this speed record, get to it - I recently built a 40 cell electric maxx type for a german Vendor with a direct drive center diff(8 spider) and a 3/8" thick motor mount for a "22" series motor(they too hope to get speeds bordering on INSANE), though keeping these beasts on the ground above 60 or so will be pretty tricky! The truck I built was designed and geared for speed - every 500 rpms yields 1 mph, not accounting for tire ballooning(using a 15t pinion - larger pinion would yield yet more speed). Batteries will be the biggest factor for these heavy beasts(the one I built was LARGE - the customer wanted a MONSTER so it has a 16.5" wheelbase and 7+" tall tires).

maXXler 08.19.2006 03:36 PM

possible esc's would be: Schulze 40160 or bk will bring out a new 250 amp esc. desgined for the lehner 30' series this year...


A fg marder would never have a chance against a 3080 (perhaps on 12 cells:025: ) i have seen a powerboot with 2 lehner 3060 on about 220 cells this was awesome, the air smells like power;)
But we are not talking about boats! a 3080 has a very high resistance because of its large rotor so when the car starts running the esc and batts would get too hot.

To build up a 1:6 car with such a motor could be doable, but a 3040 would more than oversized!! The Motor in this case isn't the limiting factor of power, the room and physik make the limits...
I have already the idea to convert a 1:6 car to a muscle car. So i had told to a friend who build up 1:6 cars since many years about my idea and he said that you need a 4WD car do get the power on the ground. A big problem is the immense torque of a 3080... A FG marder wouldn't have a chance, no way!

Quote:

Remember, its not an everyday car, more of a drag.
That's clear... the challenge isn't to build up a car that runs very good on a track (this would be really impossible) but to get a car which can handle the power. For a large motor you can modified every car but for a monster like the 3080 you need a complete selfmade car which is constructed for THIS motor. The car need to be balanced out very good, the centre of gravity must be in the right rate, you need a good steering and a trained pilot, a bullet proof transmission... all parts must be machined very precisely to minimate vibrations and friction
->heat->wear...
too much dirt or vibrations will kill the motor!! Remember the motor is originally build for boats.

The "traditional" way of transmission with spurgear+pinion has in this case no chance too, every pinion will be to weak (in powerboats you haven't any transmission, you only have the motor and a long driveshaft to the "propeller"..)
You could put the motor directly to diffs but they also will not stand the power...


And imagine how much great cars you could build up with the money (perhaps 8000-10000$) you spend for this one.


Just my 2Cents...

I wish you much fun with this project and a n1 result:027:

maXXler 08.19.2006 03:38 PM

Quote:

I recently built a 40 cell electric maxx type

pics?:004:

RC-Monster Mike 08.19.2006 03:55 PM

2 Attachment(s)
I have a couple of pictures of it mostly complete.

RC-Monster Mike 08.19.2006 04:00 PM

The wheel/tire it is resting on is a standard maxx bowtie on a velocity rim, so you can get an idea of the size. It is a custom chassis based on the FLM, but stretched to hold 10 cells per side on top and/or bottom and an extra attachment point for the braces. It can hold up to 40 3700/3800 sized cells and fits Maxx parts to it(has hybrid bulks, 3 8 spider diffs, etc. for strength). The rear of the motor will be supported along with the front at the mount. It should be race/track worthy with a sane power system, despite its huge size. :)

maXXler 08.19.2006 04:11 PM

:004: :004: n1 work dude!!!

40 cells yeah this i call overpowered ;)

I think you said it allready the batts are the problem. Lipos for this truck would simply rock but i don't want to think about the money for this lipos...


So keep us uptodate with the truck...


You said for a german vendor, hmm i'm thinking and thinking who could order this truck:010: ....

neweuser 08.19.2006 04:12 PM

that thing is insane! even without the motor and batteries! Great custom work Mike!

RC-Monster Mike 08.19.2006 04:18 PM

The truck is already in the hands of the owner. Silly me didn't think to take any pictures of the beast in completed form! She is a beast, though.

neweuser 08.19.2006 04:19 PM

I bet. No pics of a completed project? Talk about teaser!

Darren 08.19.2006 04:42 PM

The general concensus here is that im gonnna have to sink alot of money into this. While I don't believe this to be true, the project is seeming distant.


I guess i'll have to wait and see how many hiccups this supemaxx gives me first.

squeeforever 08.19.2006 05:52 PM

Mike, are those the 55 Series tires like on the CEN truck, if I'm not mistaken.

RC-Monster Mike 08.19.2006 06:48 PM

Yep. Nemesis tires from CEN Racing.

coolhandcountry 08.19.2006 06:53 PM

I think it be awesom to have a chassis like that. Be long and mean looking.
What body fits it though?

RC-Monster Mike 08.19.2006 07:07 PM

The proline Crowd Pleazer for the MGT fits pretty decent, actually. It fits about like a regular crowd pleazer body fits on an ext. gmaxx - maybe a little better due to the width - it looks pretty good on it actually.

captain harlock 08.19.2006 07:14 PM

Is that customer gonna use it for attaining a certain speed record?

Darren 08.20.2006 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neweuser
What gearing are you runing with the 9xl? What controller if you don't mind the hijac???
Also, a 3080? Can we say strip tease?

Forgot to answer:

16/51 and a 9920. Decided to change to a Quark 125 and a Lehner 1950/8

Nick 08.20.2006 06:57 PM

Seems pointless, people can hardly run 2250s at WOT, or even afford a chassis that can handle the power.

For a 3080... that cost what, £500? Then a ESC is another £500, then a charger about £200 and loads of Lipos... well ALOT! As Candyman said, at 14 you must have one hell of a paper round, or just be dreaming.

It wouldn't work without alot of custom parts which you can't provide. These are 10,000watt motors and weigh nearly 2kg. If you think a 9XL on 20cells is boring, you are wasting your money in R/C.


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