got mine today:yipi:

Congratulations on your new CF Chassis + Carbon Fiber Bodies- These are awesome.
 

Congratulations whitrzac,
I can't wait to see some pictures of your new chassis. Please post some as soon as possible. By the way, check out my new silver carbon fiber body John just made for my Hyper 9e. John explained to me that these carbon fiber bodies are the same weight as the stock lexan bodies, and he's only charging $45.oo dollars each for these carbon fiber bodies. These have been in limited production for the past year, and the first bodies John made are still going strong. John is now in full production with these carbon fiber bodies, and he will make just about any body for any RC. So if you or anyone are interested in buying your favorite body in carbon fiber, definitely send John an email and let him know. At 45 dollars, each, that's not much more than the lexan bodies. I think that's quite a great price indeed. Anyone who buys a carbon fiber body and or chassis, please post pictures on this thread, and tell us about your experience with these awesome chassis and bodies.

I'm looking forward to seeing some pictures of your carbon fiber chassis :)
Please take pictures of the chassis alone, before your RC is assembled, and then inlude pictures of your RC as you assemble it at different stages of the process of having all the parts on; if possible.

These carbon fiber bodies come in Blue, Black, Pearl Black and a few other colors as well, Please email John directly if you would like to place an order.
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3175/...iberh9ebod.jpg

All carbon fiber bodies weigh in at the same weight as the stock body, and have at least the same strength as the stock lexan bodies. I especially like the look of carbon fiber, as well :)
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3...osracingbo.jpg

PS. I'm extreemly grateful for John of MoosRacing making these carbon fiber bodies for me. This is truly a dream come true. I never thought I would ever meet someone that makes a body for an RC, in carbon fiber. And especially at these kind of extreemly reasonable prices. Thank you John of MoosRacing, You are Awesome :)

That "silver carbon fiber" is actualy hexcel texalium which is aluminun coated fiberglass... But still looks sweet.

I´ll order a hyper9e chassis ..

Carbon Fiber Hyper 9e Chassis and Silver Imitation Carbon Fiber Body.
 

Thank you molak. John said the Black and Pearl Black RC bodies are both carbon fiber, while the Silver and a few other colors are carbon fiber imitation, or better known as what I believe to be- what you said :) I will also confirm with John what the imitation corbon fiber is made up of. And I do thank you for your input and clarification.

PS. Thank you for that clarification. John of MoosRacing also mention the silver body(Material), is also as strong as the stock lexan bodies, and equal in weight. I do thank you for this technical information molak. And please post pictures of your new chassis once you've received it. What color carbon fiber chassis do you think you will get?

You know, I pretty much gave up on my chassis... but after looking at the chassis on here, it almost looks like mine was half a**ed. The quality on the stuff I see in this post is substantially higher than what I recieved, almost like they came from two different sources.

Please post pictures of these problems. Has anyone else had these problem?
 

I know what you mean about giving up after two in a row. I sure hope the spur gear hole in the chassis is in the right place? In other words, did you get another nitro chassis when you ordered the electric chassis version, or did John take care of that?

PS. Did this second chassis have more bubbles and blemishes than the first carbon fiber chassis? Please post some pictures up of the carbon fiber chassis you received. I need to know what's going on here. This is extreemly important to me. Please take many pictures of every single problem with this chassis. Also, do think any of these problems you're having will affect the performance of your buggy/truggy/chassis? In other words, as much as I like to look at my chassis and show people how cool it is, the main thing I appreciate is the performance improvment of the lighter weight and improved/increased chassis flex. If you don't mind saying, how much did you pay for your chassis, and I'm sure you said in a previous post, but which model RC did you buy this MoosRacing chassis for?

I didn't end up sending the first one back as I got my motor mount the day I was going to ship it back and it had a cover for that hole, so I wasn't sweating that, but then I went to screw stuff down and the holes weren't deeply countersunk enough to make the screws flush with the bottom of the chassis (Screws sad .5mm-1mm below chassis). I contacted John about tips on cleaning up the countersinks since I would be going into carbon and never heard back, but when it came down to it, there weren't any reliefs in the chassis itself for things like the steering posts, so if I tighten those down, I likely would never be able to remove the screws easily like I can with the stock chassis, which has reliefs to limit the rotation. The pictures above have nice neat reliefs for what appears to be the steering posts and additional ones under the diffs, etc. Mine also was narrower in the front where the diff mounted, which seemed like it could end up being a chassis break point and the diff holes were crudely cut. Not as professional as I was hoping I guess. I'm thinking about taking it up with Matrix to see if they can make me something or bugging the company that makes 3mm chassis to see if they can make me something up. Seems like since they're CNC aluminum, it can be a lot more exact.

I just can't help but look at the chassis in this thread and notice how much more professional and thought out they appear to be compared to what came to me.

AMorgan, Please Post Pictures of Everything.
 

If you've seen the Matrix concepts chassis, you must know that you cannot compare the matrix chassis to the MoosRacing chassis, insofar as looks, finish, and small and even big details such that you have mentioned. The limitations you are working within is that Matrix Concepts is not at the moment making carbon fiber chassis for most model RC's yet. And though Robert of Matrix Concepts is slowly expaning his line of chassis and parts, Robert is not making carbon fiber chassis and parts for all model rc's yet. Also keep in mind that Robert of Matrix Concepts spends months and even years testing and perfecting anything he makes. John of MoosRacing has a completely different approach. John will make just about any 1/8th scale chassis and part for anyone, very quick. Litterally make a mold and have the chassis ready in two weeks, even if that's the first chassis of that model RC. The pictures you saw on this thread are of my MoosRacing chassis, and John had no idea I was going to take pictures and or start this thread, that would be unfair to everyone. I didn't want John to know I was going to show millions and or billions of people my chassis. In johns eyes, I was just another customer, and therfore your chassis and my chassis are very likely have the same blemishes and what could be considered by many or some, to be problems. I can tell you this, before I ever knew Matrix Concepts was going to make a carbon fiber chassis for the Hyper 9e, I had asked John if he would make me a carbon fiber chassis, for my Hyper 9e, he said to give him two weeks and it should be done. I considered that a dream come true. Especially after I had just spent three months trying to find someone that would make me a carbon fiber chassis for my Hyper 9e. I can tell you right now, knowone was interested(except Robert of Matrix Concepts, he was interested), and people all over the world said it couldn't be done, and one of the reasons people said it couldn't be done is because they were convinced the final product would have to cost several hundred dollars and that it would also be way to much work to make these carbon fiber chassis. John has been making chassis for over four years now, the same quality you have in your hands is what 20% of Europe RC racers are racing with. My advice to you is put your RC together, find a way to make it work, and enjoy it. If you don't want to go that route you don't have to. You can toss that chassis aside and call it a day. I think it would be worth trying to make your chassis work for you. And as for what John cuts out and doesn't cut out, the only cut out my chassis has on the top side, is for the front and rear gearbox/bulkhead gaskets. But if your model requires that you need more than that, and John has not done this to your chassis, and has not respond to you, I would either try and fix it myself, or like you said, send it to a company that does custom work and can help you, or get another chassis from a different company. It's very clear that you are not totally happy with your chassis. I'm extreemly grateful John makes these chassis and is always improving his designs and materials and process.

As much as I like to see a happy carbon fiber chassis owner, Johns chassis are not for everyone. If you really want a chassis that is absolutely flowless in every single detail, Matrix Concepts is the only place I can think of working at that level. Johns chassis will perform well and lighten up your buggy, but right now, because of how quick John makes the molds and sends these chassis out, the chassis will have what could be considered to be blemishes. If you can see past those and find a way to get your RC back together, maybe you can grow to enjoy your chassis. Most people see past the blemishes, and are overwhelmed by gratitude of the performance increase. And others just love carbon fiber, regardless of specifications.

I really need to see pictures of all your concerns, this way I can contact John and discuss this with him. Will you please post as many pictures as you can of every concern you have, Please.

PS. Please post full shot pictures of the chassis, and also some close up pictures of the chassis details that bother you most, and least. I would like to see everything you are talking about. And I realize that you realize these blemishes may not be as big a deal as you sometimes feel they are, but you are expressing your desire to be listened to, and im listening and asking you to please post pictures in order that I and everyone on this thread, may better relate to you. Thank you in advance AMorgan, please get these pictures up :)

Note. Please put some screws into the bottom of your chassis so that I may see how much each screw is not flush with the bottom of your chassis. I know that John recumends to everyone running his chassis, to run a chassis protective sheet on the bottom as well. What I don't understand, is I've not heard one owner of these chassis say the screws were not flush on the bottom of the chassis, I would very much like to see this, picture please :)

Another Note: Please also post a picture of your original chassis relief where the steering post go into, I want to understand what you are talking about. And the best way for me to understand is by seeing pictures. Plus, I can copy these pictures and send them to John directly. I need these pictures, I can't emphasize this enough to you.

Aluminum Coated Fiberglass- Colored RC Bodies, very interesting indeed.
 

Hi molak,
You're very sharp indeed; how did you know this? John confirmed your observation. He said the Black bodies are made in carbon fiber, and the Pearl black bodies are also made in carbon fiber. But the other colors he has right now, he refers to as imitation carbon fiber-but is exactly what you said- Aluminum Coated Fiberglass. What also amazes me is that John has the weight down to the same as the stock lexan bodies. That's awesome. Please post some pictures up of your Hyper 9E carbon fiber chassis once you get it. Have a great day :)

MindThoughts, I didn't have time to read your entire post tonight, but I will read it completely tomorrow. I'll also take some photos of my chassis. I need to do that anyway as I'm talking to Matrix concepts about some stuff. I realize they're two different animals between moos and matrix, but as much as I spend on my stuff, I want it to be right and for me to be happy with the final car.

I completely understand. Let me know how everything works out. I can't wait to see these pictures :)

IDK whats up, but my 808 chassis is amazing, a few bubbles, but nothing major, the RC8 chassis on the other hand looks like it was cut out with a hacksaw and dremal the the pics don't show it well, but the holes are fraid no CA/epoxy in the diff releafs, no metal inserts for the droop screws, and there is a huge gouge in the top were he didn't use enough resin

the RC8 chassis

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...8/IMG_0516.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...8/IMG_0515.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...8/IMG_0514.jpg

my 808

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...8/IMG_0513.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...8/IMG_0511.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...8/IMG_0510.jpg

Yeah, I can see you have no droop screw receiver screws. I thought John always put these in. You ordered this from Johns web site directly? or emailed John via his web site? So you have one super clean chassis, and one that looks like it's incomplete. Did these chassis ship to you at the same time, in the same package? did they both come from the same address? did you pay the same person account when you paid for these two chassis? look all this up and let me know. something seems inconsistant here. This is exactly why I asked AMorgan to put pictures up, they speak volumes. and I can see this is a problem.

both bought via email directly from him, at the same time, the 808 chassis is suposedly an older one that someone didn't pick up.

I'll try to get better pics of the rc8 chassis today...

I see, what did John say when you asked him if he can put the droop screw heads in? Did you ask him why the chassis didn't have the droop screw heads put in, in the first place? it seems a hard thing to overlook.

I tried to snap some photos last night, but they didn't turn outh. I'll try to take some more here in the next day or so. I unbolted some stuff to mount on to my aluminum chassis last night and under the stuff I unbolted it looks like the resin wasn't quite dry because the stuff I bolted down dented the chassis. As an example, I had mounted my radio tray and there were two round indents where the posts for the radio try tightened down. I think I am just going to ultimately stick with aluminum and try to work something out with BEC to make a thinner chassis to my specs, they've already told me they could help me out and then I know it's CNC, etc.

Yeah taking pictures at night with artificial lighting is extreemly hard. Take these pictures in the day light outdoors, both in direct sunlight and also some in the shade. The pictures you take in the shade in the day time should come out very clear, I hope you get these pictures up soon because I really am interested in seeing what's going on here with your situation. The good thing is, now you can snap some pictures of this new problem of the resin you mention seems not dried. I'll be keeping an eye on this tread to see your pictures. Please get them up as soon as you can. If your having trouble taking them, maybe you can ask for some help from someone you know that's better at photography? Try the daytime shade outdoor scene and see what happens.

A message from John of MoosRacing.
 

John said he would be happy to take back the chassis with mistakes. John said that if he made a mistake in the chassis, he will make you a new one, no problem. He said to send him an email first, and then he will have you send the chassis back for a replacement.

I'm very sad to say, That John is closing his Carbon Fiber/Kevlar/Aluminum Chassis bussiness. John was away on vacation for three days, and when he came back, had over 150 emails, almost all for new chassis orders, all of which John had to turn down. Here's what's been going on.

John has a primary Job and works 8 hours a day at his day job, and then comes home and works on his hobby, which is making carbon fiber chassis and performance race parts for RC's. As of late, Business has become overwhelming with orders comming in from all over the world. John is completely exhousted and is closing the business in order that he can spend more time with his family.



AMorgan, John said to write him again and continue to write him until you make contact, let him know you were on the rc monster thread and had trouble with your chassis. let him know exactly what the problems are. be specific and to the point. John said he will make you a new chassis, no problem. Keep in mind, this will be the last chassis because John is closing the carbon fiber chassis business. He's been overwhelmed and that takes all the fun out of this hobby of his. John does his best with every chassis he makes. We all makes mistakes and we can't satisy 100% of the people 100% of the time. That said, I told John about your chassis and the other chassis on this thread pictured above, and he said if you want a new chassis made, email John until you get his response, I would send a new email every three days, this will make you stand out from the hundreds of orders John is getting every week for Chassis and Parts, that he is now turning down/away.

PS.
Anyone that owns a MoosRacing Carbon fiber chassis and or parts, Please continue to post pictures of your Chassis and or Parts on this thread. We can still keep this thread going, Johns Chassis are owned and raced all over the world. This thread can be about your race experiences, why you like carbon fiber, and anything relating to your experience with your RC and Performance parts made of carbon fiber :) Have a great day.

just cracked the front of the chassis...

goes from one side through the front diff mounts to the other, the only thing holding it together is the alloy plate:whip:

pics later.....

He's stopping the business temporary or for good?

MoosRacing.
 

My understanding is- this is not temporary.

Strange? He's suppose to send me 2 chassis as a team driver in Singapore. Our last email was 3th sept 2010. He said he has made x2 CRT chassis n scrt10 chassis for me:)

John of MoosRacing- Carbon Fiber Business Status.
 

John is still working with(Making Carbon Fiber chassis and parts) for his team drivers- and testers.

John has been receiving about 150 new orders for carbon fiber parts and chassis every three days, which is about 50 new orders every day. John said he would no longer accept new orders from new customers because he wants to spend more time with his family. John has a regular job in addition to the carbon fiber chassis and parts business. John has been working almost 20 hour shifts trying to keep up with demand but has decide he will only work with his Testers, his Team which sounds like that includes you :-) and a very few established customers that John has been working with for a very long time. I do not have any specifics beyond the information I've said here. I'm sad to see that John will no longer accept new customers- but at the same time- I'm also very happy that John values his time with family more than anything. If anyone has any questions for John, please send John an email directly. I believe I've post Johns direct email address in previous posts. And if you are on Johns team, nothing is changing for you, your Carbon Fiber Chassis and Performance Parts will be made and shipped to you per your previous arrangements with John of MoosRacing.

Thxs! MindThoughts, I guess I will just wait for his chassis & race for him. N yes family is important. I strongly support that:)

MoosRacing Team.
 

You are very welcome. Congratulations for being on Johns Team. John is one of the most awesome people I've ever met in this industry. And John has a very rare gift and is extreemly passionate about his work with carbon fiber- and serving his teams racing and performance needs.

Yes I fully agreed, I have met many talented ppl in this Rc hobby & John is one of them:)

I have reading about carbon and kevlar composites for a while, until i found that US law forbid to ship those materials to my country (in raw form).


I haven´t got my Hyper 9e yet and according to what you set i won't have a carbon chassis :oops:

Contact Matrix Concepts Inc- for your Hyper 9E carbon fiber chassis and complete kit.
 

Hi molak,
I can direct you to Robert of Matrix Concepts Inc, who is right now as we speak completing the finishing touches on the Complete Carbon Fiber Chassis and Carbon Fiber Kit for the Hyper 9E and Hyper 10sc as well. RCtech has a thread under Hobao Hyper 9E, last page and that should get you started. Robert of Matrix Concepts and John of MoosRacing are both Master Craftsmen in working with carbon fiber design for the purpose of performance and racing. You can also Google Search "Matrix Concepts Inc", and once at the home page, look to the upper right hand corner under Mission Statement, click on mission statement and you'll find Roberts direct emal address and direct phone number. Be sure to ask Robert to add you to the waiting list for the Complete Matrix Concepts Inc- Carbon Fiber Kit, which includes the Carbon Fiber Chassis, Carbon fiber shock towers, radio tray, center diff top plate, rear chassis brace, side guards, and more. The chassis alone should be priced at just under 100.oo dollars but specific pricing will not be set until the chassis and parts are released which will be around the time of the Nationals, which is quite soon. Let me know how this works out for you, I'm sure you'll be quite happy with Roberts work.

John of MoosRacing Is Located in Denmark.
 

It sounds like you are in a country other than the USA. John of MoosRacing is not in the USA, John of MoosRacing is in Denmark.

I would like to add that this is in NO WAY the chassis fault, there was 1 jump that would throw cars 20-30ft in the air with a crappy lander, and if you F***** up on the jump there was no way to prevent a nosedive from 20ft up...


FYI, the chassis didn't completely rip apart until the 10min race was over(I took 5th in the A) and I grabbed the buggy by the front tower to put in my car...
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...8/IMG_0552.jpg
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...8/IMG_0551.jpg

there in no possibility to have an hyper 93 chassis for me ?

John Of MoosRacing. And Robert Of Matrix Concepts Inc.
 

John- The Owner Of MoosRacing is closing his Carbon Fiber business to the public(unless you are on his Team), December 1st of 2010, in order that he may spend more time with his family. I'm told by one of Johns Team Members that John will still take new orders for carbon fiber chassis- including the Hyper 9E- up until the 1st of this December(2010). Please write John via email to confirm this. I do not know if John is already fully booked solid or if John still has openings for new orders before he closes his carbon fiber bussiness. I do know that John was receiving aproximately 50 new orders each day from all over the world- for various carbon fiber parts and carbon fiber chassis as well. And being that Johns carbon fiber work has always been a hobby and John has a regular day job, the carbon fiber work and orders became overwhelming; and leaving very little or no time for John to spend with his family. This is the only reason John is closing his carbon fiber bussiness to new orders after December 1st of 2010.

Please send John an email asking to have your Hyper 9E chassis made for you. And you can ask if it's possible to still place your order- as well.

PS. You also have the choice of ordering your Hyper 9E Carbon Fiber Chassis From Matrix Concepts Inc. Google Search the aforementioned and click on Mission Statement at the top right hand corner of Roberts home page. Robert has been making carbon fiber chassis for the past five years with great success. Jeremy Kortz is also running the full Matrix Concepts Inc Carbon Fiber Chassis on his Hyper 9E- as well as the full carbon fiber Hyper 9E conversion kit. Robert recently develop a lexan underbody reminiscent of the Associated B44, which also protects the carbon fiber chassis. It's quite an awesome design. These chassis and kits are not shipping yet but Robert is taking orders for the Hyper 9E, as well as all other 1/8th scale models. Just send Robert an email and those emails with the largest number of orders will have the best chance of going into production sequentially- after the Hyper 9E and Hyper 10SC carbon fiber chassis and complete kits begin shipping. Robert of Matrix Concepts does not have a date set for delivery yet. Thank you for your interest- and for posting on this thread- and furthermore- for reading this post :)
Have a great Day/Evening.

Thank u for information , i mailed john yesterday but i have no reply yet...

Thanks again

Carbon Fiber Chassis & Performance Parts.
 

You are very welcome. And keep in mind, if John does not return your email, it very likely means he's overwhelmed with work and may not be accepting additional orders before he officially closses his business on December 1st 2010.

John usually returns emails within four or five days. If beyond five days- I highly recommend you look into placing your full carbon fiber chassis and complete carbon fiber kit-order- with Matrix Concepts Inc- Robert Also Does Absolutely Outstanding Masterful Work- and has been for the past twenty years of working with carbon fiber for performance parts :)

wow sad news!

was hoping this guy could make me sum neat upgrades! Fredericia is other end of country, but in bigger scale, just around the corner.

he was truly unique. Wish he teamed up with rc fellows and continue that venture he had going! Never saw this sandwich-model he did before.

Glad I was lucky enough to get my chassis in before he got overrun with orders. I still have my Jammin chassis sitting in the box, but my winter project is going to be converting my Jammin X1 buggy to a Jammin X2 on-road GT car with the Moos Racing CF chassis. Should be very slick!

MoosRacing Becomes MoosDesign.
 

I'm very happy for you simplechamp. That's really truly awesome you were one of the last people to get your order complete before John sold his MoosRacing business. In fact- John told me recently that he decide rather than close his business- he sold his MoosRacing carbon fiber RC design business and parts production should resume in January of 2011. I do not know any details beyond this. In other words- I do not know which web site will be used nor do I know which contact information will be valid nor up to date. But any new information I discover- I most certainly will either post here on this thread- or post on a new thread. I'll decide once the time comes.

John- Formally of MoosRacing, and now MoosDesign-has start a new company with his wife- making carbon fiber Rings and Jewelry. This Jewelry is like nothing I've ever seen before, truly outstanding quality and attention to detail. This new business allows John more time with his family- being that John works with his wife Marianne- making the new carbon fiber rings with various precious stones.

Have a great day :)

I guess I am d lucky few who still drive for moosracing. Btw anyone has a jammin chassis n build a front skid plate as the chassis n bumper does not flush?

De Racing Skid Plates and T-Bone Racing- And Or Basher Bumpers.
 

Yes- you certainly are one of the lucky few that races on Johns team. Will you please post up many detailed and close up pictures of your Carbon Fiber RC? It's nice to see as many RC's as possible- with carbon fiber chassis and or full carbon fiber kits. Please feel free to post as many pictures from as many different angles as you possibly can- and if possible- very well lit pictures always shows great detail :)

PS. As for the chassis sitting flush with the bumpers- my experience has been that the MoosRacing carbon fiber chassis is a little bit thicker than the stock metal chassis- which cause the chassis to sit below the front and rear bumper. I highly recommend the T-Bone Racing (Big) Basher bumpers for use during practice days which act both as a bumper and as a skid plate. T-Bone Racing offers the front and rear as a set and they only cost about 22.oo dollars or so for the set(2 bumpers/skid plates). And during racing- I recommend the De Racing front and rear skid plates in combination with your stock bumpers. Associated also offers a sticky sheet/Clear Material which sticks to the bottom of your chassis and protects the chassis. John highly recommends some form or type of chassis protection. If you have any more questions- please feel free to ask. Happy Holidays To All, And To All A Good Night :)

So I have to sit tight and be patient that in January the 9e chassis and other parts "might" be availible ?

Thanks.
Jeff