It was running good. We need V3 soon. To bad we have to do V2 first, lol.

i conducted your test today because it was my day off and being greatly overpaid i was able to but 3 bricks, i painted one red, one black and covered the last one with flame stickers.

after some thinking i decided the most scientific way of testing would be to drop them, (it was less work than throwing them anyway) the red brick hit the ground at .23sec the black one hit the ground at .23 and the one with flames hit the ground at .23sec as well, but what shocked me was the c rating, both the red and black bricks had a c rating of 0, but the one with the flames turned out to 150c, i was shocked at first, do you guys think the sticker could have caused this?

what was the temperature of the bricks after your test? was the 150C one considerably cooler than the red/black ones? Maybe it was defective?

no. i don't need to see it to know that the black brick with flames and a 150c sticker actually fell a little slower and was almost twice its original size after the test. it also got over 150F. btw, this brick was "brand p":lol:

Oh, RC-Monster. The only place where a thread about a Mamba XL controller can turn in to a bash MA thread. :lol:

And apparently the only place where the members can build a setup that will push any given lipo to its rated output. And I think this may be the only place where the members ask for graphs and "factual" info, and never get it.

I don't believe any post mentioned MA at all...

I believe I can count two that do mention it...

Yep, they both mentioned it. :yes: :na:

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

i have no idea what you are talking about? "brand p" was the only one mentioned.:angel:

back on topic: to be honest, i am not surprised with the failures that the first new speed controls have experienced. it is to be expected with any new, ground-breaking speed control. does this sound familiar to anyone? *cough MMM cough*
this isn't necessarily castle's fault in my opinion. everyone has been wanting these escs so bad and castle got it out as soon as they could with their customers' best interests in mind. if they wanted to, they could have made us all wait another year or so and skip the whole V1 and V2 phase, but i wouldn't want to have a nice baja ready for conversion with no available esc that is actually affordable. this is where castle shines; great prices, great quality, and top-notch customer service.

long story short, failures should be expected with new products but castle's awesome customer service more than makes up for it with free replacements or at least cheap replacements if it is out of warranty or it is truly user error.

:slap: :smile:

Thomas Porfert, read the rules :rules: CC experts must stay ON TOPIC in this thread.

So, can you give us any insight into the changes that were made with V2?

:whistle:

I never saw anyone bashing Massachusetts in here, what ya'll talking about? Why would you, they got awesome clam chowder!

I agree. I was a very early adopter...I was 12th on the list to get a Castle Conversion Kit. And I am totally comfortable with some of the failures that come with some new products as long as Castle Creations supports me well....which they have. Every employee at Castle has been great to work with. I have the confidence they will do what it takes to keep me rolling.

Speaking of...here is my conversion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJpjuC9AzWc

This is true. I was really talking about Massachusetts. :whistle:

Sorry I thought Brand P was the state of Massachusetts?

I still can't figure out how you received yours before mine when I was number 3 on the list :).

Just like you I don't mind diving in early because I know I'll get the support of Castle if anything should happen.

On topic
So has CC offically released the Ver2? Is there a easy way to tell ver1 from ver2?
I'm still happy with my 12s setup bu tI think I need another 5T for my son and I want to run the CC combo with his truck.

I completely concur, sir, and I have a suggestion for who should watch over the Free Masons (ALWAYS Capitalize Free Masons!)...the Illuminati, I mean, who else could "watch over" the Masons?

@ BrianG or any other electrical wizards,

If the BEC is the issue, can someone explain why it seems so difficult to build the circuit correctly?
It would seem to me that if one can build an ESC to put out very high amps in a precise controlled fashion that a simple constant voltage circuit would not be very hard to pull off?

Version 2 Mamba XL's have not started shipping yet, but they are currently being finished up in production. If you have a version 1, it can be sent in for repair. We had to add a TVS to the BEC. Some servos on higher voltages were causing voltage spikes to come back up the line and take out the BEC. With the addition of the TVS, it prevents the voltage spikes from damaging components.

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

Thanks for the info on V2 - we greatly appreciate it. :yes:

Nice info.

Thanks for that info Thomas - Trigger finger is getting itchy and was just about to hit enter for one of these. What is the suggestion at this point? Order one in stock now and immediately send it in? Or wait for V2 to hit the shelves. Not sure which will get on in my truck the quickest.

Got my V2 from Castle Creations today. Got it installed and ready to go. I went ahead and got a CC BEC Pro just to ease the duties on the ESC. New Mamba XL has a Big White sticker that says "REV. 2" on it. Also a small round sleve on the red battery cable that says "New Stock".

I would run the heck out of the V2 except it is snowing like crazy tonight. Feels like I pissed of Mother Nature. I am gonna smack that B***h.

Anyway, I will do some running if the streets dry. Wish me luck on my V2.

Man, I gotta get me an HPI Baja 5T!!!

Hey Tom...I was talking with Joe at RCX. Is there any chance that the one that is being delivered to my LHS tomorrow from Horizon Hobby be a V2? It came off back order last week.

I hope so, would hate to have to ship it out.

Thanks
John

Guess that answers my question???

OK I run BEC Pros on mine which I guess helps with this issue.

My second mamba xl smoked. Was bran new, didnt make 2 metters with the car. :neutral:
First time i connected it was ok, so i disconected went outside to test it and nothing but smoke...

First MXL is got bec pro on it to and it is working ok, my temp are 99°C after 15 min of driving..dont kow why this hight temps as if i drive under 15 min temperature is up to 80°C. After 15 min of driving goes above 90 up to 99°C.
Any advice?

Will be sending second mxl to castle for repairs. As i am from EU this will take some time.

Here a bad pic "sorry".

http://forum.modelarji.com/datoteke/dsc04095_199.jpg

My V2 esc is scheduled to be here tomorrow, should I update it to the latest firmware or run it as is?

Castle will be sending me new one tomorrow.

Thank you CC! :party:

This will be the third one right? If this one goes up in smoke, I would probably start looking at why they are all blowing. Especially since your last one heated up so much so fast. Assuming you aren't geared ridiculously, heating up that fast would make me suspect the motor (possible partial demagnetized)...

First MXL i got is working ok for now, only temp. is high.
Data loger says from last driving max temp was 125°C.
I do use slipper lock kit.

Second MXL i bought is the one i send to cc, it just smoked.
Motor is actually new, as it was only used few times. Should be ok.

Hmm, the last esc that i received from castle that was under warranty repair went out in smokes and that was Mamba XL Ver 2. But my first MXL that i bought is working with bec pro with no problems!

Here a video :

Mamba XL Ver2. smoked

First run was ok, whole 20 minutes of driving. Second run we tried, well u saw the rest. Will send it again to CC for warranty repairs...

WOW that stinks. There has to be a problem somewhere that is causing that, Can I ask what Lipo's you are running to get 20 min of run time out of the buggy?

I would be so pissed if my MMXL kept failing like this...

I knew the MMM had probs, but i dont recall them being this serious!

Considering a caslte ESC takes 1 month to send back and for them to return a new one... you would never be running your truck!!!!

They are not, something is wrong here that is causing that. I am not saying that they never had or have any problems but to have this many failures in a row is saying something else.

I am using all lipos 5000mah 40C 2x3S
It is not always full throtlle to the end.

Well i do have another MXL V1 that is also with bec pro and it is working perfect also on 1520 motor.

Black 5b kit is also 1520 motor mxl with bec pro 5000mah 40C 2x3S lipos.

I will send this time to castle everything.. motor, bec and mxl.

But as i sad on my first chrome 5b kit all is good. Esc work perfect.

Ok so you are running a 1520 motor on 22.2 volts (6s)? If that is the case you are running a good amount more RPM than the 2028-8s setup. maybe it is possible that with such a long run time that you are letting the batts get to low on voltage causing the amperage to climb which in turn is doing harm to the ESC? What do you have your voltage cutoff on the ESC at?
1520=1600kv X 22.2v= 35,520 RPM
2028=780kv X 29.6v= 23,088 RPM

If possible can you post your Data log??

On all my CC esc i have LVC at 3,4V per cell.

Yes in both kits that got Mxl got also 1520 motor and on 6S with bec pro.
Thrid kit is got MMM, 1520 motor and on 6S. Working like a champ.
This black 5b kit is like cursed... just wont do more than 1 run.

Sorry but i got no saved data. I always clear the data base before new driving.
Will post data from my next drive but first rain needs to stop.

Jahay..if i ship to CC priority mail package comes faster.

If you ask for an advanced replacement Castle will take your credit card info and send you one before they receive your dead one... That makes it a fast turn around.