Yeah, but it PALES in comparison to the rides at Traxxas.

I've seen at Traxxas in the parking lot -- Viper ACR, Lamborghini Gallardo, Ferrari 430...

And at HPI -- Ferrari Enzo

My Nissan just doesn't compare. :oops:

We'll have a nice little fix for that in about a month. Watch the website!

NOW we're getting somewhere! It sucks replacing connectors every 10 runs from being pitted by the huge spark on every hookup. I've even toyed with adding smaller "sacrificial" connectors, but wasn't worth the effort.

I'll be watching.

I almost welded my plugs together on my Ebike and my 19 cap capacitor bank.



Damn man. Traxxas and HPI are some ballers. Your Nissan is still a nice onroad monster though.

There are new people working at my local hobby shop and they won't let me open every ESC up, like the previous peeps did. I guess, I will have to wait a bit. What are cap values on the Castle cap bank?

Panasonic FM series, 220uF 50V, x 4

Call me stupid, but i dont understand how a pinion change cannot be done without unlocking it? Also can the traxxas radio and reciever just be changed out to bypass the lock?

Oh I would take your GT-R over anything European. Good choice Patrick!

No, you need the app ( and therefore traxxas radio equipment ) in order to unlock full speed potential- can't be done via a PC by itself.

New ESC looks great...

Now I know why you locked me of the db ;)

My god this is a thing of beauty! I really need to get this new mmm extreme and 1717 combo! Ive got an on road project that needs this in it. Sexy is the only word that comes to mind right now! SEXY...but a thousand bucks for an on road rtr? Thats a bit much for me personally, BUT I know there are plenty of deep pockets that will shell it out. Gosh, a thousand bucks the 1.1 I drive only cost 1300 and Ive been driving it for two years now. Sheesh. BTW when does this rig come out guys?

LOL! Yeah --

We will be publishing a .dll for the Castle Link Live protocol soon.

We are very happy that Traxxas decided to use our sensor protocol for their new radio. They really did a terrific job on the new radio and bidirectional communications system.

Having the ESC temp, RPM, speed, etc. available for display on the radio is very very nice.

I'm sure you'll be able to get the combo from ebay chopshops soon enough. Also, that's tje MSRP, which is always higher than the selling price. I would say the selling price will be somewhere around $800...

Hi Patrick,
Will the TRAXXAS 1717 be available to the general RC market?

Are there any plans for a 'module' of some sort so that regular MMM owners can make use of the telemetry feed as such ( like the eagletree live view ), or something akin to this little wonder?..

well patrick the castle hardware on the car looks great, it my be enuf to get me to buy one, be we really need you guys to sell that 1717 too

i have a 1717 and its by far my favorite motor,i would love to be able to buy more of them

Eventually. Right now all our production capacity for that motor is going to Traxxas.

Plans? Of course we have plans!

Whether we have time to implement them is the question...

In a 0-60 the GT-R will will whip every car you mentioned.

Yeah, but it doesn't LOOK as cool. :oh:

I think it does!
Also you notice the X0-1 have the exact same colors as the Nissan.

Also have you driven the Xo-1?

http://www.roadandtrack.com/var/ezfl...issan-gt-r.jpg

Definately a cool package. As always with traxxas there are things I like and things I don't. Dig the aero undertray and the sweet cc power train. Also the driveline dampner is cool. Don't dig the revo diffs or the 4x4 slash arms, front carriers and knuckles and rear hubs. Worst part is you have to have a iPhone to make it go 100mph. Although the sensorless telemetry is wicked cool. It's nice to see new stuff out of the cc corner. Can't wait to see how this all plays out for the rest of the cc line! Hopefully more cool stuff is just around the corner!

I was out doing laundry tonight and got bored, so I started thinking about what possessed Trx to require an iDevice (why I decided to ponder this unimportant topic of all things is beyond me). I realized my beef is not so much about the Apple device requirement (even though I dislike their products), but the need to get anything to fully use what I bought.

I assume they chose an Apple product because they are standard sized with standard hardware, so it's easier to develop a standard interface. I can also understand their desire to program the the telemetry interface for iOS since it's a more controlled environment. Not to mention there are so many implementations of Android on so many hardware versions that support and ensuring compatibility would be a chore.

What I DON'T get is why any device is needed to unlock the ESC? Require the device for added features like touch-interface, data storage, telemetry, etc - not a "great" idea IMO, but understandable. But don't limit the base functionality without that optional device. So I have to buy an otherwise unrelated product to use what I already paid for? Kinda like buying a 1:1 car with a V6 engine, but 3 of the pistons don't fire unless you hook up some Bose Acoustimass home speakers to the stock headunit.

Some people argue that even a current CC system requires the optional Castle Link to "unlock it", but that argument is baseless. It's more difficult, but you can program lots of stuff via the old fashioned transmitter way. You aren't buying a crippled device that only the CLink can unlock - it's just a finer tweaking tool. Big difference IMO. Other people argue that you have to buy better batteries for current setups to get the full capability. Baseless again. It's not like the system is intentionally crippled until it "knows" you are running lipos, it just allows it to run better.

OK rant over.

So that's where the driver of that Lamborghini works. Seen it a few times while on my route.

Who else thinks those Revo diffs won't be able to handle those speeds?

You don't have to buy an iDevice to unlock it: you can borrow one, download the app, unlock the ESC, and give the iDevice back to its owner.

According to Traxxas, unlocking is a one-time thing and does not require continued presence of the idevice.

If needing to buy one was your only gripe, its gone.

wow!First off excellent job from traxxas and an even better but expected great job from castle !!!Waayy outta the box for traxxas but.......this set up is a recipe for problems i.m.o whats the problem you ask?$1000$ PLASTIC!!!!! after this goes 100mph you will be in debt with the vegas mob.Ive had traxxas for years and this set up belongs in a ofna gtp 2e carbon fiber set up not traxxas buddys.this car will go 100ft then flip flop into a pile o'plastic tooth brushes springs and bearings wait for it wait for it poof boom theres the lipos burn this 1000$ headache into a plastic cookie! although, the speedo is to me as valuable as alien technology.castle's in kahoots with mamba martians

I want the chassis, suspension, and the motor but not their lipos, radio, or a neutered ESC. If I've got some spare money (highly unlikely) in the next few months I may look for a roller but that all depends. I've got plenty of room to go run one and I'd like to have an onroader that handles but the XO-1 comes with too much baggage IMO.

Glad some people around the world said verbatim what i said.Scary do some forum monitoring this was said by someone on another site "looks like a niko toys r.us tyco chassis"now dont get mad at me for my opinion,but we all know this thing will sell if it were $2000 once you show100mph on .......

a nascar track banked to stop wind. a nascar track is a artificial environment for a rc car commercial advertizing a plastic 100mph 10 pound rc car take that plastic dohickey to 3 random parking lots and speed test it hahaaahaaaa.have your hobby shop on speed dial.it'll sell though

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...-On-Road-Sedan

Wow, I actually forgot about the GTPs. Makes the XO-1 look a bit silly the more I think about it.

Yeah, but the xo1 is 1/7 scale and the ofna is 1/8 scale. Having one less scale will make the traxxas much faster and more reliable. Need proof? 1/1 scale cars are very reliable and have way faster top speeds than r/c cars. The less scales the better.:whistle:

Seriously though, with the gtp available buying a traxxas on roader makes as much sense as buying an $1100 hdmi cable.:yes:

Patrick, Are you saying the sensors are in the esc? I know temp and RPM will, but speed? How can you adjust for other vehicles?

How is speed measured?

Speed is measured by calculating the distance you have gone and how long it took you to get there. speed = distance over time :lol::yes:

on a side note, I think this new car looks cool but i think people are loosing sight that 100+mph for a speed vehicle isn't exactly uncharted territory. there are a handfull of us here and one vorza in x-treme rc magazine that can go into the triple digits for alot less money and still retain it's versatility with an 1/8 buggy.

in my mind all they are proving is that a 4x4 can break 100. there has been video of a few doing well over 90 on youtube for over a year. throw enough gear at it with a 1515 and there you go. you could probably do it fairly easily with a 2400 combo as well.

i too might try to find a roller, but i think the price tag of a grand is flat out silly. :surprised::yes:

Traxxas. The fastest name in radio control. Meh..... I would be much happier with: Brand X. The most reliable and durable name in radio control.

Seems to me all that Traxxas and HPI care about is what ridiculous number they can put on their boxes next to the mph. I am just over it. I can easily buy a better motor, better ESC and more powerful lipos to make my car go quick. What I need is a car that isn't going to fall apart or have it's drivetrain turn to dust. A car that is soundly engineered and even maybe a little over-engineered. Using Revo diffs was such a stupid call. They struggled in my E-Revo on 4S. Myfriend has even managed to destroy couple in his Slash 4x4. Now I know that was off road truck but the XO-1 will have a 1717 motor and running 6S. I see many people destroying a diff before they get through the first few days of owning this car.

good point big block goood point.

Completly agree, the car itself just looks a bit dull and cheaply made.
Im sure traxxas has the biggest profit margin on their car than any one else in the rc business.

Then it will be a $9.99 app that secretly tracks and reports your r/c activity back to Traxxas and or Castle. Big brother will be watching you R/c.

And the Patent-Pending Cush Drive™ is bacically the samt thing that hpi have used on their baja for ages, just downsized

The car does have an al chassis, all of the plastic chassis parts are basically an undertray for aerodynamic assistance. Plus they have a motor cooling duct on one side, that may also generate some down force.

I think you guys need to take a better look at this, they put alot of thought and design into it.

The diffs are the revo spec ones with the steel supports inside, and they are running a set of 1/8 buggy tires/wheels, which weigh at lest 2/3rd less than a std MT tire/wheel. Wheel and tire weight-force kills diffs. If the diffs are correctly assembled and the ring/pinion mesh is good I do not see why the diffs will have any issues.

I built a slayer a while back and ran the snot out of it, buggy wheels with buggy badlands. Never had the slightest bit of diff or driveshaft trouble, even after breaking numerous arms and blowing tires of the wheels. I really think the diffs will not be an issue here.

My concerns center around how strong the chassis will be, flexibility wise. I see they have a center support that the center driveshaft passes thru, and a top deck of some sort. Hope that keeps the flex down to a minimum.

And the 1717 on 6s will be plenty of motor to get 10lbs or so up to 100mph. Not so sure the 25c traxxas lipos will hold up, would prefer to see some 40c lipos there. I will be keeping the dual tray setup, as even weight distribution is key to going fast and being stable.

Ok, did some more reading and i have a question:

Does the Traxxas Link communicate with the MMM? Does it act as a type of castle link and allow for all of the esc adjustments to be done on the fly?

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You can bash TRX for a lot, but they really put effort into this car.

Yeah you can buy the ofna cheaper, but what will it take to get it too 100mph with full telemetry???? I can guarantee when your done you'll have at least 1k if not more into it. After all, the ofna is a roller nothing more and has none of the air control surfaces built in as the TRX car.

It's funny, everyone always complains that TRX never does anything new, just rehashes other designs (pretty much like every other RC company but nevermind that). When they do come up with an extremely well thought out and engineered design that is all new, people still bitch.

Traxxas hasn't really designed anything to get my heart pumping since the revo until this, so I give it up to them for nailing it well. They will sell these like hot cakes.

Like I said, my only hangup is the idevice requirement. However, seeing as used 3g's and 3gs's are everywhere for cheap, including the one my wife doesn't use, it's not a huge deal. I will still be okay when I decide to get one of these.

When you consider the package they put together, even at 1.1k, it's not a horrible deal.

MMM is 150, batteries would be in the 200 range, motor will probably sell for around 300, roller is probably a good 300 seeing all it has including the aluminum parts, telemetry system is at least 300. Right there you are at 1250 and I am sure there are things I missed.