RC-Monster Forums

RC-Monster Forums (https://www.rc-monster.com/forum/index.php)
-   Castle Creations (https://www.rc-monster.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=34)
-   -   Censored! (https://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32301)

Pdelcast 10.24.2016 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 431149)
This is awesome!

1410-3800 or 1415-2400 sensored coming? Paypal and CC ready...

I've seen samples of the 1410 in person. I don't know about the 1415…

I know it's planned but I don't know how long the timeline is

jcflyer 10.24.2016 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 431148)
That's a 1406-4600.

If I get a chance, and don't get reprimanded by the rest of the shareholders, I'll post a picture of the 1515-2200 sensored later this week.

Anychance you will make a 2028-600,800???

nitrostarter 10.24.2016 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 431150)
I've seen samples of the 1410 in person. I don't know about the 1415…

I know it's planned but I don't know how long the timeline is



:surprised: :party::great:

1410! Man that's exciting. I can do a good write-up with pics and video for a beta test. :lol:

Kcaz25 10.24.2016 05:17 PM

YEAAAAAAAAAHHHH!! I'm pumped! We feel privileged! CAN'T WAIT to see the 1515

ruudxd 10.25.2016 08:39 AM

That is awesome!
Even though I do not need that motor, I still think it is awesome that you put some spy shots on here :)
Keep up the good work, maybe, one day an Sensored 1717 :)

slimthelineman 10.26.2016 11:31 AM

Been in hiding for a long time but this was just the thing to bring me back! Looks like after years off of racing I've got a reason to go back! Can't wait for these to be released! My only wish is for lower kv options say ~1800 in the 1406/1410 for some 4s 4wdsc action.

Pdelcast 10.26.2016 12:17 PM

3 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by slimthelineman (Post 431157)
Been in hiding for a long time but this was just the thing to bring me back! Looks like after years off of racing I've got a reason to go back! Can't wait for these to be released! My only wish is for lower kv options say ~1800 in the 1406/1410 for some 4s 4wdsc action.

Shhhh!!! This is not official and I might get fired for it. ;)

slimthelineman 10.26.2016 01:23 PM

OMG! Now that's a beautiful thing! 1415 2400kv on 4s sounds like a ground pounder for sure! Thanks for the sneak peaks Patrick! Now I just need to get to the track more so I'll be ready when these hit the stores!

nitrostarter 10.26.2016 06:00 PM

O man that 1415 is going to crush it!


Patrick, have you seen these in action? curious on the low speed control here.

Pdelcast 10.27.2016 02:39 PM

OK, so the way I hear it, the 1406 series and 1515/1512 series will be the first to be released.

1415/1410 will follow a couple months behind.

That's the official word from the engineer behind these magnificent creations!

Pdelcast 10.27.2016 02:42 PM

And I'm gonna get in trouble for leaking this.... but I don't care.

:diablo:

nitrostarter 10.27.2016 02:59 PM

Can you sneak me a test model of the 1415-2400??


So glad to see these coming out!

Pdelcast 10.27.2016 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 431169)
Can you sneak me a test model of the 1415-2400??


So glad to see these coming out!

Unfortunately, I can't even get one for myself... Sorry.

nitrostarter 10.27.2016 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 431170)
Unfortunately, I can't even get one for myself... Sorry.



Sounds like you need to make a presidential decision :lol::lol:

Kcaz25 10.27.2016 10:49 PM

Just make sure that engineer makes it like you designed the Neucastle motors that we are still addicted to except sensored lol. Right?

nitrostarter 10.29.2016 12:53 PM

Looks like Hemistorm got a good preview

https://youtu.be/pdNN-7y9QdA

Pdelcast 10.30.2016 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kcaz25 (Post 431172)
Just make sure that engineer makes it like you designed the Neucastle motors that we are still addicted to except sensored lol. Right?

I only volunteered a couple ideas.

These motors were designed by our resident racer/mechanical engineer.

Pdelcast 10.30.2016 10:56 PM

Check out the rotor and sensor assembly.

It's unique in RC.

And very very consistent timing because of the design.

It's very cool tech. I wish I could take some credit for it. ��

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=pdNN-7y9QdA

http://scaleandtrail.com/castle-crea...d-motor-linup/

WEB 10.31.2016 11:29 AM

This is going to be so good=)
Can not wait! hope the price is right?
WEB

ta_man 10.31.2016 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 431177)
Check out the rotor and sensor assembly.

It's unique in RC.

And very very consistent timing because of the design.

Umm... Not Quite...

The Hobbywing 1/8th scale XERUN G2 rotors also have separate magnets at the back of the rotor to assure accurate timing. Pic on their web site shows that. Though they don't discuss details, a 4 segment ring is clearly visible at the back of, and separated from, the main rotor magnets. It is not clear from the pic whether they also have a flux shield between the magnets for the sensors and the main magnets.

I was kind of wondering who came up with the idea first, Castle or HobbyWing, since they are both being released so close together (though one can already buy the HobbyWing). Their pic was on their web site before your info was publicized here.

Pdelcast 11.01.2016 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ta_man (Post 431180)
Umm... Not Quite...

The Hobbywing 1/8th scale XERUN G2 rotors also have separate magnets at the back of the rotor to assure accurate timing. Pic on their web site shows that. Though they don't discuss details, a 4 segment ring is clearly visible at the back of, and separated from, the main rotor magnets. It is not clear from the pic whether they also have a flux shield between the magnets for the sensors and the main magnets.

I was kind of wondering who came up with the idea first, Castle or HobbyWing, since they are both being released so close together (though one can already buy the HobbyWing). Their pic was on their web site before your info was publicized here.


Interesting. The designs are different for sure.

It's actually a common design outside of RC-- but more expensive to manufacture.

I guess we were both working on it. Understood the same issues.

jcflyer 11.01.2016 07:08 AM

I still haven't heard if there will be bigger motors make like the 2028???

Pdelcast 11.01.2016 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcflyer (Post 431182)
I still haven't heard if there will be bigger motors make like the 2028???

Yes. It is so.

nitrostarter 11.01.2016 10:15 AM

Where would the sensored benefit in the 2028 size? I'm thinking of these being run at 50% throttle or more all the time.

jcflyer 11.01.2016 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 431184)
Where would the sensored benefit in the 2028 size? I'm thinking of these being run at 50% throttle or more all the time.

Drag Racing, that's what we do and cogging is a problem when leaving the line.

Kcaz25 11.01.2016 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ta_man (Post 431180)
Umm... Not Quite...

The Hobbywing 1/8th scale XERUN G2 rotors also have separate magnets at the back of the rotor to assure accurate timing. Pic on their web site shows that. Though they don't discuss details, a 4 segment ring is clearly visible at the back of, and separated from, the main rotor magnets. It is not clear from the pic whether they also have a flux shield between the magnets for the sensors and the main magnets.

I was kind of wondering who came up with the idea first, Castle or HobbyWing, since they are both being released so close together (though one can already buy the HobbyWing). Their pic was on their web site before your info was publicized here.

You've made your point and I am glad to learn that Hobbywing also has the magnets on the back, but can't you see that if Hobbywing doesn't have the shield then the Castle design is still technically unique. It may come out later that Hobbywing also has the shield. I know castle has been working on this for long time because I have been following them on Facebook and they kept dropping hints.
This is Castle I will say. Hobbywing products work pretty good. But Castle is a company is on a different level. And they have always been above reproach. And let's not forget that they have propriety software that featured large in that video to turn these rotors even though that is not really what is in question here.

Pdelcast 11.01.2016 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 431181)
Interesting. The designs are different for sure.

It's actually a common design outside of RC-- but more expensive to manufacture.

I guess we were both working on it. Understood the same issues.

Well, there are big differences between the Castle and the Hobbywing design.

I won't go into detail, because the differences are the "special sauce" -- but one big difference I can talk about is QuietSense.

Castle shields the sensor assembly from influence from the stator end-winding fields. This prevents high power fields from skewing the field being detected by the sensor, and prevents noise from causing invalid sensor outputs.

nitrostarter 11.01.2016 02:47 PM

I see them on the website, but they say out of stock... Patiently waiting :whistle:

Pdelcast 11.01.2016 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 431188)
I see them on the website, but they say out of stock... Patiently waiting :whistle:

And you have a little while to wait. We use a very high-end sensor that isn't available in China, so we had to ship them to China to be installed in the motors... And that was a nightmare.

But they are coming. Just be patient. :lol:

nitrostarter 11.01.2016 03:30 PM

Patrick
Pass along to the engineers that we need a 3000kv motor in the 1410 size for crawler/trail truck. That's been some feedback I've heard from the release.


Are those prices valid too? I hope so.

EDIT: I went ahead and preodered a 1410- 3800.

Pdelcast 11.03.2016 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 431190)
Patrick
Pass along to the engineers that we need a 3000kv motor in the 1410 size for crawler/trail truck. That's been some feedback I've heard from the release.


Are those prices valid too? I hope so.

EDIT: I went ahead and preodered a 1410- 3800.

The preorder pricing is valid. The retail pricing is valid (for now...)

For the 1410, I'm actually considering a 1410/1.5Y -- which would be about 2550kV. And possibly a 1408/1.5Y at about 3000kV.

jcflyer 11.03.2016 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 431183)
Yes. It is so.

When can we expect to see them???

nitrostarter 11.03.2016 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 431193)
For the 1410, I'm actually considering a 1410/1.5Y -- which would be about 2550kV. And possibly a 1408/1.5Y at about 3000kV.



That's perfect! I may have posted this request on multiple places, just trying to be heard and it looks like we're good. :party::party:

Pdelcast 11.03.2016 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 431195)
That's perfect! I may have posted this request on multiple places, just trying to be heard and it looks like we're good. :party::party:

Personally, I think the 1410-1.5Y will be the perfect crawler motor. I don't really see a need for the shorter motor -- the 1410 will stay cooler.

Pdelcast 11.03.2016 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcflyer (Post 431194)
When can we expect to see them???

Soon. Last I heard we were supposed to have samples in-house RSN.

This will be the first round of samples, and will need tweaking.

So, probably early early next year. January maybe.

Pdelcast 11.03.2016 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 431197)
Soon. Last I heard we were supposed to have samples in-house RSN.

This will be the first round of samples, and will need tweaking.

So, probably early early next year. January maybe.

And I'm probably going to get in trouble for that post too... :lol:

jcflyer 11.03.2016 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 431197)
Soon. Last I heard we were supposed to have samples in-house RSN.

This will be the first round of samples, and will need tweaking.

So, probably early early next year. January maybe.

Ok great thanks...

nitrostarter 11.03.2016 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 431196)
Personally, I think the 1410-1.5Y will be the perfect crawler motor. I don't really see a need for the shorter motor -- the 1410 will stay cooler.


I would agree. 1410 is a great motor and a lower kv will make it even better.


I was trying to see where a 1408 would end up size wise anyway. The 1406 is 50mm long while the 1410 is 52mm. I can't imagine a 1408 would really be necessary.

Pdelcast 11.03.2016 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 431200)
I would agree. 1410 is a great motor and a lower kv will make it even better.


I was trying to see where a 1408 would end up size wise anyway. The 1406 is 50mm long while the 1410 is 52mm. I can't imagine a 1408 would really be necessary.

It would go in the 1406 can. Just a longer stator for lower Kv.

Kcaz25 11.03.2016 04:43 PM

You have been so gracious sharing all this with us!

I have a question. How about a can that is not anodized? Perhaps just Castle anodized on it? Green doesn't always fit my build color scheme but silver or black would be a nice option.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:48 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.